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I guess I'm too online, because these threads take something out of me. Cassa posted this one because she saw a user on 196 claim there can be no true democracy under capitalism. (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by iie@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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The comments are what you expect. All agree that we're psychopaths who support genocide and just want authority as a goal in itself. All agree we do no leftist praxis, I guess just based on vibes. One user wrote:

let’s be honest, they should be removed from society

which is cool. One-on-one, online or in person, I'm pretty patient with people like this, but when I see a whole thread like this with hundreds of upvotes and no pushback it makes me feel tired.

lemmy.ml link in case any of you have alts and want to wade in: https://lemmy.ml/post/6930975

The democracy thread she commented in right before posting this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/5160468

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[–] sharkfucker420@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a soft spot for 196. I used to frequent it pretty heavily and a lot of the people there are so fucking sweet but unfortunately so misguided. Their anti-tankie rhetoric often comes from a place genuine concern, they truly believe in democracy under capitalism and radically changing the system from capitalism means removing democracy in their heads. Some of them can be depropagandized, I am living proof of that and I hope one day they'll come to understand.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't see how someone who lived though the 2020 BLM protests and covid and still thinks they live in a democracy can be radicalized.

If watching every city's police respond to protests against police brutality with more brutality while every dem increased their funding and republican begged for the blood of children, while a million Americans are sacrificed at the alter of capital didn't wake them up, I can't conceive of a scenario that would.

The military using live ammo? Famine?

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The modlog sure is a treat

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog

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[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The white children posted a butthurt meme, we shall not repost it nor reply to it

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

(David Attenborough voice) In the period following its birth, the Cracker enters what is known as the Childhood phase. For Crackers of the Great Lakes variety, this stage may last anywhere from 18 to 40 years. Progress is often sluggish, frequently delayed by the outside threat posed by prey - an invasive population of Tankies, native to Siberia

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

undermine democracy

oh no, if that happens... then even if 80% of Americans want universal healthcare we wouldn't get it!

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"undermine democracy"

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

How can you undermine something that doesn't exist in nonsocialist countries?

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Real nice "leftist" community they've got over there

Edit: also this, data-laughing

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

omfg

didnt you get banned from there for a similar call out

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I got suspended from the original sub ages ago bcs I got into a heated argument at someone in the replies to an "upvote to scare the tankies" meme that was just a picture of Syngman Rhee and then banned at a later date over getting angry at someone for saying that the US should go back into Afghanistan to liberate them from the Taliban.

I also got banned from the blahaj version recently for saying something along the lines of "ngl, it's sus af that you're accusing someone of being a tankie for posting an anti-fascist, anti US government meme" in reply to a comment that said "kick tankies out of 196" in the comments to that meme about the US hiring Nazi officials

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"upvote to scare the tankies" meme that was just a picture of Syngman Rhee

Jesus Christ what the fuck

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i just wish blahaj banned 196 so we could all have a nice established trans specific server to be on without being harassed by chasers deeper-sadness. i hate how the queer community is so fragmented on the fediverse

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Calling it a subreddit when you're not on reddit. I'm sorry, it's a terminal case of :lemmitor:#

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Anti-authoritarian is when you ban certain political persuasions from public life

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are so close to realizing that the word is as meaningless as "woke"

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It isn't meaningless, in the same way "woke" isn't meaningless. It is purely reactionary. A primal visceral hatred of change, of a shift in status (particularly their own), of anything that might - even superficially - undermine their own sense of supremacy.

Woke is the sentiment that causes people to reject the modern state of affairs.

Tankies are the agents of change, coming to plow up their fields of strange fruit.

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[–] good_girl@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No no, it's totally normal to ban tankies on sight but debate openly ableist users.

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V*ushites making a claim on being the only real communists once again.

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[–] good_girl@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

😇

::: spoiler badges of honor

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[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Tankie apologist? No sir I’m just a tankie.

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

what if I’m using it scientifically?

you’re not wall-talk stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Reminder that anti-communism is a prerequisite of fascism

[–] Ananasova@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

i remember exact same meme was posted on r/196 but instead of "tankies" there were "neoliberals". Ironic

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

let’s be honest, they should be removed from society

good luck with that. there's a reason why socialist states have a military and police.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Calling tankies fascist while I call for the cleansing of tankies

[–] iie@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I think they mean us

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"when they came for communists, I told them exactly where they are to own those authoritarian red fash tankies"

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

"Then they came for me and I instantly joined their cause"

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Read "The Jakarta Method" to know how it was done historically.

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[–] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Who gives a shit about what the chaser instance has to say.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

they do this a lot. its disappointing to see trans users be ok with shit like this. especially considering how many chasers are in that comm. fam, you can do better, and you should demand better

it always reminds of this one time i helped a trans lady out, bought her transit to her appointment to hrt, bought the hrt, she came back to the center to hug me and said i changed her life and that what i did made things so much easier for her. some time later she realized i was a communist (i think someone made a joke about it or something), asked me if it was true (i said yes, i help people), then she yelled at me about being a tankie and ghosted the whole center. i didnt even say anything or get in an argument, she just overheard it. i cant help but mourn the idea that she could have had a good and safe space and made a lot of friends, but she ended up hurting herself due to propaganda.

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[–] Russian_Bot_6969@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Thar be fedposting in that community.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I never see "kick Nazis out of 196". Interesting curious-marx

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[–] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even as an anarchist that place frequently makes me cringe

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's not ideologically anarchist, it's aesthetically anarchist. Which is why they latch on to a century old conflict between anarchists and Marxist leninists in Spain instead of actually applying any sort of critical rigor to their interactions with the world.

[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Sometimes the more well read ones'll bring up Makhnovshchina, but typically don't know much more than they fought against the Soviets in the aftermath of the revolution.

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[–] MalarchoBidenism@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Communism is the only political ideology where for some reason it's acceptable to claim its proponents don't believe in the things they say and actually secretely believe the opposite. No one is ever "just pretending" to be a liberal, a conservative, a monarchist, a fascist, a social democrat or a libertarian, it's just communists. They never explain what one gets out of this "pretending" either.

And the worst part is these people are themselves leftists, so they have surely heard the same "you're just bitter and jealous of rich people smuglord" bullshit from conservatives, but they turn around and repeat it at us.

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