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A Shitlib pop history youtuber who makes lowbrow “what if” slop and has been recently getting into obnoxious slap fights with random communists and anarchists on Bird-site also has far right fans? Huh

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just gleefully falling for the red scare now lmao

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

That's what I'm thinking. They think actual communists pointing that out means we are "offended" when we're just amused/bewildered they think it's a flex. Especially when even average Joe Schmoes don't think good things when they think "Red Scare" or "McCarthyism".

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago
[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Anybody that studies history and ends up right wing is either studying national origin myths like they're marvel superheroes or has a Nazi soul.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

A nazi soul is unscientific. They are made of Hitler Particles.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

cody is like really, really bad at alt-history. i say this as a fan and life long reader.

his show sucks. doesn't surprise me he's alt-right adjacent.

since i'm bitching: most alt-history writers are shit too. like the guy who did the "domination of draka" series which is just fascist wankfest. also none of them understand materialism.

only good alt-history guy is Matt Christman and the other guy on his hinge points podcast

[–] axont@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Robert Silverberg is a sometimes a good alt-history writer, Christman has praised him. When he's at his best he's drawing parallels between divergent ruling classes and our own. He's at his worst when he's getting deep into the idealism, like his alternate Rome that survives to the modern day because Christianity was never invented, and so the western and eastern Roman Empires never fought one another. You got it right. Alt-history guys usually don't understand materialism.

Kim Stanely Robinson wrote a pretty good alt-history novel, "Years of Rice and Salt." The premise is the black plague kills 99% of Europe, so it's a world without white people. So the whole world is split between various Chinese and Muslim states. It's a good novel because it's from the perspective of two people who keep getting reincarnated. There's a chapter where one of them is a tiger.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

omg i forgot about KSR!! i love the years of rice and salt. KSR radicalized me literally my first introduction to socialism from the Mars Trilogy to that.

the only thing about the years of rice and salt is I wish we could get longer stories out of some of the short stories from the bardo group. i really, really wanted an expansion of the japanese diaspora basically arming the Iroquois with steel working, weapons and gunpowder and having political marriages

so much potential for it's own novel

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call him "alt-right adjacent". More just your run of the mill anti-communist shitlib who may or may not vote Sanders. The fact that he has far right fans is more just that the specific brand of low-effort althist gruel panders to the kind of audience who are susceptible to it otherwise.

Side note but there's an interesting in-progress Drakaverse revolution forum quest (ie, alternate history where repliers can influence it as its written) by Marxists on SV.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Shitlib Content creators asking "jeez why do I have so many fascist followers on social media??? Anyway here's why communists were worse than the Nazis, sponsored by creatinine packed GamerSups"

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Don Quixote is smiling on them.

Dude, you guys won the cold war already. Give it a rest. You won the whole damn thing, and how are you STILL not happy?

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They won the Cold War and the world didn't instantly get better. In fact, everything seems to be slowly getting worse. There are no grand aspirations for humanity anymore. Every new technology is met with justified skepticism because people know it'll be used to fire as many workers as possible. They just don't connect it back to capitalism. In fact, when shit goes wrong today, people STILL blame communism for it.

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I honestly wonder sometimes what could drive someone to be so spiteful and bitter towards people who have the audacity to imagine a better reality, especially when they have no material incentive to be like that.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know if a pervasive sense of entropic hopelessness is technically a material condition, but it's not like they're immune to it. They need something to blame

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

"Wtf this house I built on the sand keeps on shifting, this fucking sucks"

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

What communist is vying for Europe? China? Lol. They’re not the ones siphoning industries from Europeans.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

i don't understand why althist on youtube is so fucking awful. are they just people that got bullied off the forums? on youtube they're always doing shit like "aXis ViCtoRy???" when that was so thoroughly whipped on alternatehistory dot com "sealion" was slang for unbelievable plot developments.

is there a different chud fantasy site that does "althistory"?

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't trust any history nerd who doesn't know how to build a Molotov cocktail

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't trust my back anyone who thinks stuffing a piece of cloth into a whiskey bottle is a good enough fire bottle. You gotta have professional mindset for this stuff

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Exactly this, you need a proper mix of thickening agent and fuel especially if you target cars or other mobile targets

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Can't forget ignition source safety, reliability, and redundancy. People always discount the most important part of the design.

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A tooth should fall out of your skull every time you utter the phrase "I did nazi that coming"

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Congratulations sir! You win the internet! I'm too poor for Reddit gold but can give you this gold-communist XDXDXDXD

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never liked Alt-History stuff. You can always tell it's someone living in the Global North when they touch upon any country that isn't European or the US.

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Anecdotal but a lot of the better stories I've read have always had a significant amount of focus put on a Global South nation or, better yet, North American First Nations people. It's a generally good litmus test between sheltered people who don't want to go outside the confines of their worldview and those who want to study history by the details.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Dude might literally be the lamest Cody

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

So do I. Which is why I find it funny that they're trying to use it as a slur lenin-laugh