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[–] godfilma@dmv.social 83 points 2 years ago (2 children)

These type of charts annoy me because they have redundant information. They're symmetric along the diagonal.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a better way to present the data with less redundancy?

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Typically you'd just present it as the upper diagonal of the matrix.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then you can't just scan a row and get the whole info about a country. Images are rectangular anyways

[–] godfilma@dmv.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can if you pick a column. What i would do is put the name of each group in the gray box which is currently just where each group intersects with themselves. Then delete everything above that so it's just a triangle.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Why tho? It makes parsing at least somewhat harder and you don't save any space

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Particularly when they don't have to be. These relationships are rarely symmetric.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ISIS over here beefing with everyone, ride or die for the caliphate inshallah

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

The feeling is mutual.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

US and Iraq get along? Is that because we blew all the people there that didn't like us to oblivion?

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

The u.s. also still holds all their foreign currency reserves, so they're kinda forced to be friendly if they want to keep their economy a float.

[–] faceless@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

probably from 10 years ok

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isis doesn't have any friends to play with

[–] AwfulWaffle56@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm curious how the US and Turkiye are yellow but there's literally military bases in Turkiye that house US troops

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Yellow is labeled "It's complicated" that kinda sounds like an it's complicated relationship to me lmao

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Turkey has a complicated political history but to color with a very broad brush, they were transformed from an Islamic state and former empire to a secular western aligned democracy by Kemal Ataturk. The Turkish army was politically aligned with Ataturk and would intervene to prevent Turkey from backsliding into an Islamic state. The current government executed a slow-rolling coup replacing military commanders and instituted a largely Islamic autocracy which for historical reasons remains a member of NATO but which would probably not join the alliance if the decision were to be made again today. They’re not a powerful nation militarily or economically by European standards, but seek to play both sides of international conflicts to magnify their influence. They cannot walk away from NATO without risking an existential threat from the military and economic fallout, but will get away with what they can.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago
[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

ISIS is the kid that takes their toys and goes home.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looking like a goddam pokemon type match-up chart

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not much of a Pokemon player, but I saw the chart in Arceus the other day and I was like "Jesus fuck. It used to just be Rock Paper Scissors. Now you need a freaking spreadsheet!"

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

It was never rock paper scissors. The three starters are an analogue of rock, paper, scissors. But the other types have much more complicated relationships even in the first release of pokemon in the 90s.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

They've added 3 (or 4) types in the past 28(?) years. The chart didn't get that much more complex... That's nothing for a such an old game...

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago

ISIS believes (incorrectly) you can force the Islamic State, much the way Christian Nationalists think you can purge the nonbelievers. And then the heretics. And then the sinners. And then the secret sinners. And then the insufficiently pious.

The path to a global ideological state is to feed the poor and the radicals. A few years of good living and no-one wants to fight anymore.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Haha, it looks like somebody's just mashing light punch

[–] TTimo@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

A better ordering of the columns would make this easier to read..

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago

I kinda expect some asymmetry somewhere. Like Jordan is a big fan of Qatar, but Qatar totally wants to destroy Jordan.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i remember seeing this exact chart 10-ish years ago. how accurate is this info now?

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Partly accurate.

Afaik for Turkey all red items should be yellow except AlQaeda and ISIS.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

im noticing a strong negative correlation, roughly where x=-y

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I like to ship Saudi Arabia and Iraq even though it's not canon. They make a cute couple

[–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

are the U.S. and Saudi Arabia still friends? I have a cute ex there and I worry about him a lot

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure he's doing fine in the US, though the news likes to imply they're headed for a second civil war almost daily.

[–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Nono, other way around. I'm in the US, he's in Saudi. Sorry for the confusion!

[–] Speiser0@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't a graph be easier to read?

[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Since when is the US in the middle east? Have these people ever seen a map?