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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 121 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Best friends with American Jesus, the super tall white guy with long hair.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

I wish cumskin Jesus was real, it'd be a good bit.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

this is the face they invented crackers for

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 73 points 2 years ago (1 children)

egyptian people should be allowed to kill anyone who makes up shit about the pyramids at this point.

[–] Raebxeh@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

There’s a reason Klan leadership pivoted into writing esoteric and supernatural “nonfiction” a couple decades back. That shit is insidious.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago

refuses to allow genetic testing of early emperors

shows a picture of a fucking taklamakan mummy. mmmm yes so prehistoric China had a claim in modern Xinjiang then? lenin-sure genetic testing is just elevated phrenology anyway, all it actually tells you is what groups/modern people are related to a particular corpse, or group of corpses. it can help identify some movements of people but provides zero insight into the culture or language or social status of the people. there is no white people gene, we don't actually know how mummies looked or skulls looked in life.

also there aren't any verified early emperor burials what the fuck are they talking about. the ban was on all kinds of archaeological corpses because westoids kept fucking stealing samples to do phrenology with

but like the second one has to be bait what self-respecting white supremacist wouldn't say something like the coliseum and just claim it's more impressive than the pyramids?????

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"If we steal from your culture is it really your culture anymore?"cracker

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Genghis Khan? White.

Xerxes? White.

Jesus? White

Mohammed? White.

Sargon of Akkad? White.

The entire population of Australopithecus? Believe it or not, white.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sargon of Akkad? White.

I mean there's some maw Anglo Island dipshit using his name so, two Pinocchios for this line.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Carl Of Swindon? Extremely white.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

Also British, a right bastard, and a culture thief. But I'm repeating myself

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Genghis Khan? White

23 minutes of hardcore debunking on that claim (which i know was a bit but it's cool historiography)

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

literally finding it funny that ghengis khan looks pretty much exactly what wed expect him to look like based off what we can observe of typical modern mongolian men but you have to actually convince some shitass white dudes that this obvious thing is true and real

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Jenkins Hanz is definitely a white guy, I don't know what y'all are talking about

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[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago
[–] guts@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

ayo hol up you tellin me Kayden Lieblowiczski built the pyramids an' stuff?

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

clown-to-clown-communication

Atlantians were proto whites/proto Faustians. I'm assuming that's what Spengler says in Early Days of World History

It's more complicated than that. European cultures begin as an alchemical merging of Atlantean and Turanian elements.

Turanian? I would've thought Nemedian or Poitainian over them. Aquilonian even.

clown-to-clown-conversation

internet-delenda-est

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

The most embarrassing part of that exchange is believing Spengler

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Turanian? I would've thought Nemedian or Poitainian over them. Aquilonian even.

what do any of these words mean

I don't want to go down a white supremacist Google hole, which I fully expect to happen if I just search them blindly

could someone who is a little more online please tell me wtf any of those proper nouns mean?

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Turanian

my best guess on this is that they're substituting "aryan" for turanian to avoid the nazi-coding. Turan is an iranian term for east-of-iran based on a legendary figure. as indo-iranian(aryan) split into iranian and indo-aryan in the general area of Turan i suppose the nazis probably think there was a central-asian atlantis of white people over there or something

the other two terms first results are from conan the barbarian lmao

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

I recognize some from Robert E. Howard's Conan stories. He drew inspiration for the fictional setting from the popular pseudo-history of the antediluvian world (before the biblical flood) which included ideas about Atlantis with helping of race science.

I'm guessing white supremacist are taking long forgotten fake history from like the 20's at face value shrug-outta-hecks

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius, there was an age undreamed of. Unto this Conan, destined to bear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell you of this saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Atlantians were proto whites/proto Faustians

Were they sunk due to a deal with the devil? What the fuck is a "Faustian"?

[–] eight@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

damn china and their dastardly archeological integrity

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean, on the one hand i couldn’t care less about imperial bloodlines. Its all a bunch of made up bullshit. Why not test them?

On the other hand, idgaf about China not allowing testing, either. They’re Chinas mummies or corpses or bodies or whatever. They can do whatever they want with their silly imperial nonsense ideas.

Test them. Or dont. what the fuck does it actually matter to anyone?

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, on the one hand i couldn’t care less about imperial bloodlines.

No, no, no. Hear me out. Consider a subpopulation of people that exist in a tiny private city, never leave the house, demand everyone wait on them hand-and-foot like gods, and then repeatedly get rolled by "primitive" neighbors every time they want to do some light imperialism on their borders.

Test them. Or dont.

"You won't let us test your emperors!" is the thin edge of the pseudo-science gobblegock edge, wherein some whiny cranks at The University of Jesus Iowa with PhDs in Time Cube Maths send threatening letters to the local Chinese consulate demanding first class tickets to the Beijing Museum Of Fake Science to debunk claims made about how many angels can dance on the end of a pin.

Its just another Alex Jones "We Have The Documents" rant.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doesn't Israel just not allow DNA heritage testing at all? Why is this specifically beyond the pale?

[–] jonne 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because they might discover that a good chunk of Palestinians are descendants of people who were there before the diaspora every happened.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

(I meant why would the Chinese Emperor's bodies not being allowed to be tested be proof of China's perfidy while Israel's one goes unexamined?)

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

White Nation of Islam guy who believes Yakub was actually white and invented white people out of love

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[–] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

they claim that about everyone

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i actually heard a similar thing about Japan from one of my college anthropology professors, they (sourcelessly) implied that japan refused to test because they didn't want people to know the royal family was actually Korean or something. I could see the Chinese government wanting to just completely avoid any kind of stupid historical culture shock that could come from similar testing.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not really a secret that most early Japanese culture was just shamelessly copying China until they eventually developed their own thing. Wouldn't be surprising if the nobility had Chinese or Korean blood in there.

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

true, the written scripts are super similar and i think were brought to japan by buddhist monks iirc

[–] axont@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It actually went back and forth sometimes. There are a bunch of loan words from Japanese in modern Chinese too, especially if they relate to science or economics. Like the Mandarin term for "capitalism" is 资本主义 (zīběnzhǔyì) and I'm pretty sure it's a loan word from Japanese, 資本主義 (shihonshugi). Languages are cool.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Same for “communism” (共产主义) .

The worst part was the word for “science”, Chen Duxiu wanted to call it 赛因斯学 (sai-yin-si xue), but overseas Chinese students from Japan brought back 科学 (ke xue) which makes more sense lol.

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[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

AutismDragon really doing gods work trolling Twitter for premium brain poison. o7 comrade

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You may be entitled to financial compensation for exposure to brain poison from work in the post mines

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Damn wish i got paid for this.

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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

or maybe they're really really stupid idk

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago
[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

ah, the Reverse Hotep, a rare specimen

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd just like to point out on top of all the fake white history cope, that the photoshop of that brown-haired Tarim mummy woman is also completely wrong

You can actually see how the mummy's skull is not only completely out-of-bounds of the phenotypical variance of ANY european, but is completely different from the recreation of the face on the right. The recreation looks like fucking Mark Zuckerberg's sister.

Their recreations regularly suck because 1) whites have bad spatiovisual intelligence (this is a fact because I said so) and 2) because they maliciously fake their recreations to prove some sort of point/agenda

If you can't see it, just look at the mummy's absolutely massive cheekbones. Something which can basically only be seen on East Asians and maybe some admixed populations in central Siberia (Tatars, etc). Honestly it's probably only still around on Mongols now.

The reason for this is because the mummy itself was basically 30% East Asian and 70% something-that-contributed-to Europeans (not Europeans themselves). Calling this thing European would be exactly analogous to calling Germans Mexican because Mexicans have partially European DNA

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