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License to kill: US police killed over 1,200 people in 2023 (www.wsws.org)
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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Keep in mind when looking at data like this that we do not actually know how many people police kill. Despite the 1994 crime bill mandating the detailed reporting of every police killing to the feds no one has ever forced them to do it. What we are seeing are only the ones that ended up having an outside entity involved in the investigation (be it of the crime leading to the killing or of the killing it's self).

Years ago, in an interview with a an industry rag Patrick Hendry, head of the NY police union, the largest of it's kind, was asked about this and he answered that "most" killings never leave the department that employed the officer(s) who committed the homicide.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-many-americans-the-police-kill-each-year/

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It total, since 2013, MPV has recorded 12,318 police killings in the US,over 5,000 more deaths than all US military personnel killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen and other “war on terror” battlefields from October 2001 through October 2019, according to the Watson Institute at Brown University.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At what point do we categorise America as being in a civil war?

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When you can actually defend yourself against the police.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it hits the fan like that the police become an even worse roving gang than they already are. For any well armed and practiced leftist they should be target #1. They have weapons, ammunition, vehicles and fuel in store but are terrible at using any of them. Relatively easy pickings really and just dangerous enough that they really have to be eliminated quickly before they get a real taste of autonomy.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You scare the shit out of me but I suppose I take comfort knowing you're lurking out there. Have a great day!

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

I'd be perfectly contented to never use a single bit of the training I've done. I don't want to live the beginning of Mad Max, I'm just not going quietly if I have to. The day wasn't bad. Hope yours was at least as agreeable.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 9 points 2 years ago

It's a class war. Always has been.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

1,200 people is nothing compared to what would happen during a civil war. It is multiple orders of magnitude shy of what even a few months of civil war would cause.

As an example, all US cities are within 48 hours of being in starvation all the time. 24-48 hours before all store shelves are empty is generally the accepted logistics.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone know how many police officers were killed by people?

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Do you also get to count police officers killed by police officers (like negligent car accidents)?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not enough.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago

Wow, what bootlickers downvoted you?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago

That still seems pretty low, but I'm sure that not all 1200 were cops abusing their power.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isreal: "amateurs!"

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 2 years ago

According to Israel logic the American people have a right to kil 30,000 police officers in self-defence or until they uproot the bad apples or whatever.

[–] Epicmulch@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Compare that to how many interactions with cops there were.