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DeWine, a Republican, announced his veto at a news conference on Friday morning. He said he visited several children's hospitals and spoke with parents and transgender children to help inform his decision.

"Parents have looked me in the eye and have told me, that but for this treatment, their child would be dead," DeWine told reporters. "Ultimately I think this is about protecting human life."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ohio-governor-vetos-ban-transgender-care-sports-participation-2023-12-29/

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

I have a small gut tingle telling me some Republicans understand the transphobia isn't a winning angle and they're gonna end up split over how much to go after transphobia. The average American is transphobic more in a ignorant hog way where they see trans people as a joke, not some scary insidious peril threatening the stability of society. The more direct genocidal stuff comes across as needless preoccupation to most of the chuds I know in my daily life.

Only the most online chuds care. Like the types listening to Daily Wire podcasts. The average conservarive has to have what a trans person even is explained to them. You ask the average hog american to describe a trans woman and they'll describe a drag queen. They seriously can't conjure up the imagination to know who their enemies are supposed to be. They're pure drooling reaction and don't see trans people as structural, or they don't care enough.

Also trans people are still so rare in daily society (less than 1% and even less are open about it) that it's hard to point to any as an other. This just doesn't work for riling up reactionary votes the same way as something like racism or hatred of poor people

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

State level GOP is mixed on how insane they are about trans issues, compared to lock step fascism from the federal and media level

State level politics is still different to a degree from federal politics and the media environment is totally different. I think a lot of these GOP governors are smart enough to piece together that full fash is not popular with voters.

desantis-beta-walk leaned more moderate before he decided to try and create a national profile

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The bills were passed with a supermajority, so it will probably be overturned

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ohio, where getting 50% of the vote means you control 70% of the legislature, if you're Republican.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Oh. I was thinking this was good news for a second. Should have known better.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“I truly believe that we can address a number of goals and House Bill 68 by administrative rules that will have likely a better chance of surviving judicial review and being adopted.”

Something tells me he vetoed it for the wrong reasons. At least it got vetoed.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I read over the bill and the only thing I can guess is that there's screwy language dealing with how courts decide to give custody over kids. The first few lines are about how courts won't be able to deny things like parenting time or visitation based on a parent's (incorrect) decision to withhold medical care to their trans kids, even if transition is recommended by doctors. Yeah except that sounds like a complete bucket of worms to handle in family court. Like I could see a situation where one parent wants the kid to transition, the other parent doesn't, and then you've got a wacky family court battle that ends up getting national attention and then the supreme court gets involved.

Maybe the governor got cold feet about something like that happening? I don't know.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

House Bill 68

bateman-business-card So close to greatness...

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Republicans somehow outflanking the Dems on the left by being able to actually do things like veto their own policies.

[–] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Why did they pick that photo lol?

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Chud media tried the "raised fist = literally Hitler" thing back when Biden did his speech with the red backdrop so they might be trying to subtly imply that sort of thing. Probably not though, maybe it was just the photographer's first assignment.

[–] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Conservatives love big black balls

[–] chicory@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Important context, Mike Dewine is actually the size of a lil' marionette doll. The photographer didn't have much to work with here, even though DeWine was probably standing on a stack of phone books.