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[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 83 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This really seems like something the FCC should be enforcing... T-Mobile has no authority to make anyone pay fines... Terms of Service are not legally binding like that. All they can do is refuse service, and report the activity if it's actually illegal.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

They're enforcement would likely escalate to a stopping of message delivery from the offenders.

[–] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

…yes they do. This is for vendors that use/enter into a business relationship with T-Mobile directly to send short codes or SMS. I.e. companies like Vonage and Twilio.

You can absolutely enforce fees against your direct customers for certain behaviors.

This would not work for messages received from other telcos

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 12 points 2 years ago

When you replace government regulations with self regulating corporation, this is the best we can hope for I guess.

[–] kingaloo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

FCC is kind of a joke. Corp tells them what to do. If FCC did what it's meant to do, we wouldn't have such crap mobile and Internet infrastructure, terrible privacy policies, etc etc.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Mmmmm, yeah, I'm going to need you to ~~come in on Sunday, too... we kinda lost some people and we need to do a little catch-up~~ also fine the bitches that handle the political bullshit, too, thaaaanks.

Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff. The replies I get are great, and I don't think I've had the same campaign try twice since, but I'd rather just not see the shit at all. Add a 0 or three to that figure.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again

[–] Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I do the same! One goatse reply and they'll leave you alone usually

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff

Do it long enough and you'll find the marketing dude who's into it and just spams you more.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

This means kink war. And I'm going to win.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Time to send you some political spam messages, eh?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again.

[–] goldisgood4u@lemmings.world -2 points 2 years ago

not you spamming us with the same comment twice

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Cost of doing business. T-Mobile just demanding a slice of the action

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Per message? Or just per "incident"?

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rules for thee but not for me huh?

[–] Thanks4Nothing@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Not sure what that means. I never get any messages from TMO unless it's a bill notification...

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How does a company fine someone?

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

they ask nicely for money

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We need to kill phone numbers like, yesterday. It’s too hard to change a phone number.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

We need a way to give a unique number to everyone, record who we gave them to, enforce that only they can use it, and burn them at any time.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

From what I've heard, it's very easy to change your phone number on T-Mobile.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good luck getting all your 2FA changed on all your accounts. Good luck updating all your friends and family. Good luck informing every company you do business with.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IMHO, you shouldn't use your phone number for 2FA anyways.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree, but usually don’t have an option.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 0 points 2 years ago

I avoid this wherever possible, because the only reason to do it is to track you more. It's expensive and more complicated to set up than app 2fa which is free to operate.

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Looks like a USA problem.

Idk about 2FA, but updating friends and family is insanely easy on most messaging platforms. I can update my phone number and then WhatsApp or Telegram will prompt those who chat with me that I've changed my number and they can switch to that number for chatting.

WhatsApp: Screenshot_20231229-131041

Notice received when the number is changed on WhatsApp: IMG_20231229_131425_783

Telegram: Screenshot_20231229-131125

As for contacting businesses, this seems like a personal situation, since I contact companies via the above messaging apps. So they will receive a notification about my updated number.

I'll verify if this is optional, so we can choose if people get that notice...

Edit:

You can't specify who gets informed. If you've blocked someone, they will not get that notification.

I've also added images above to demonstrate how it works on the two platforms I mentioned.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spam callers don't seem to care what number they're dialing.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Fair point.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

Is this per message, or...?