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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 164 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Hate to be that guy, but for something bad like this to happen, it's never one person's fault. Like the engineer who nuked the gitlab backup by mistake while production had been deleted. He didn't lose his job and rightfully so, there were a thousand other issues that led to that.

[–] BigT54@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Recently, YouTube started adding a tracking parameter to their share URLs, when using the "share" button on a video. With this, they can track who is sharing videos with who, and under some circumstances even how they are shared. The tracker starts with the question mark in the link you posted and the link works perfectly fine without that part.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for pointing this out, I think it's not only youtube that does this and the solution is to edit such link before sharing them, right?

[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's the clearurl addon that removes known trackers. But you gotta copy it from the URL bar first.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I already have it enabled on all my Firefoxes

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-vw-hearing-20151009-story.html

Or when VW management tossed some employees under the non emissions compliant bus.

[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Don't hate to be that guy. You're completely right

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I love the video

[–] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Great channel!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That wasn't the design engineer's fault. It was the design engineer's fault and the QA tester's fault and management's fault.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Kase@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

I blame society for reddit.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Plus the government

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's funny to me when people act like this is some weird take but at the same time call every layer of management above the workers "leaders". If leaders aren't responsible for anything then what purpose do they serve?

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I once got a funny look at a job interview when I implied managers should do their job. It was a pretty clear indication that I don't want to work there and I think my response also crossed me off their list.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And marketing, and sales. Tons of people would have pointed this out.

Some small committee of managers would have come up with some reason to dismiss all of these complaints.

Also there’s a very simple workaround for this that doesn’t require a full recall.

And what is going on 4 ports to the right? Seems like a similar problem.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And marketing, and sales. Tons of people would have pointed this out.

Maybe, but (unlike QA and management) I wouldn't expect them to notice the problem or hold them responsible for failing to do so.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Marketing (or “product management” or whatever your org calls them) should be creating the requirement docs which the engineers implement. Sales should be learning and using every aspect of the product. Oh I forgot to mention tech docs/pubs, throw them in there too.

So yeah, this isn’t just “some engineer” and QA. A ton of people would have fucked up.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And what is going on 4 ports to the right? Seems like a similar problem.

The mini-USB console port? Yeah, that could be a similar issue, but I've never had to use that port while a device is in active production. If I can't access the device via IP on our management fabric, the device is probably in a broken-enough state that I can probably unplug a cable or two to attach a laptop and troubleshoot.

[–] zik@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I guarantee management was rushing this product out the door to meet deadlines without adequate testing and without running a pilot program. That's the only way this could realistically happen.

I suspect this one falls squarely on management. But I bet they didn't take the blame.

[–] Baines@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Incan imagine many reasons to have done this on purpose

how many bad raises to the center of a tootsie pop

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 99 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Right up there with the classic Macintoshes with unshielded speakers nested right up against the hard drive and would periodically emit a tone that would reboot the computer.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My personal favorite was the early-90s Macs that didn't have an eject button for the floppy drive, but did have a pushbutton power switch ... directly above the floppy drive. It took me weeks to stop powering off the computer every time I wanted to eject the floppy. Silly me, not picking up on the oh-so-very-intuitive practice of dragging the floppy icon over to the trash can in order to eject it.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also extra fun was if the computer was non-functional and had a floppy disk in it, since it required working software in order to eject the disk, you had to do some disassembly in order to retrieve the disk.

[–] smort@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Which computer was that? I had a bunch of early apples and Macs, and they all had a little paper clip hole to manually eject the floppy

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How the actual fuck did this get through QA and production?

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How did the design make it past quality control, though? Sounds like a few balls were dropped.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

QC probably tested with normal cables, not the protective jacket ones.

[–] kingaloo@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

They're is no QC that's how.

[–] lordkuri@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just to clarify something... they say it "resets the switch" but some people may not realize in Cisco parlance, that means factory reset, as in wipe it completely and start with a fresh config. It was WAAAY worse than just rebooting it.

When Express Setup is inadvertently invoked by the protective boot of the cable, these messages are seen in the syslog:

%SYS-7-NV_BLOCK_INIT: Initialized the geometry of nvram

%EXPRESS_SETUP-6-CONFIG_IS_RESET: The configuration is reset and the system will now reboot

%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested by NGWC led process. Reload Reason: Reload command.

%STACKMGR-1-RELOAD_REQUEST: 1 stack-mgr: Received reload request for all switches, reason Reload command

%STACKMGR-1-RELOAD: 1 stack-mgr: Reloading due to reason Reload command.

After this occurs, the device resets. The startup configuration is erased once the device enters Express Setup.

[–] PastyWaterSnake@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I almost found this out the hard way. I think on the Cisco equipment, it's something like: Hold for 2 seconds to cycle power. Hold for 5 seconds to wipe config.

Our IT guy nearly had a heart attack when, over the phone, I asked if I should press the little "Reset" on the back.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That couldn't have been an accident, they wanted people to suffer.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

there's a saying, never attribute malice when incompetence would do. I don't think an engineer would do this on purpose, but it really should have been caught by QA.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Found one of these at work one day. It's equally hilarious in person

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I would love to see one of those IRL

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And that design engineer's name? Pagliacci

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But doctor... I am the ethernet cable.

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[–] andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He should be a dildo designer.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Hehehehe

But really he put the button there rather than the button pusher.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

how common are those specific types of cables? The ones with that specific “protective boot”

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Really common with quality premade cables.

You know, the ones used in datacenters

[–] Winter8593@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Yeah every one of my Ethernet cables at home have that.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Almost every Ethernet cable has this, you can search for RJ-45 cables on Amazon and you will basically always see something like this.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 6 points 2 years ago

Basically all of them

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I believe it's part of the standard so, all of them. Unless you get your cables from some cheap Chinese knockoff brand, but I don't imagine that any business would do that. Not worth the risk.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty charitable calling that fucking flipper a 'boot', I must say.