Spend 30 days in jail vs Murder the locals.
Shocked that this is so rare it makes the news.
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It isn't rare at all, the news is just primed to latch onto this stuff now.
I hope you're right. It's entirely possible you are and this is being politicized and publicized precisely because of ongoing events. But I sincerely hope the number does go up because of current events.
If you've ever seen a video of those monsters celebrating the destruction of Palestinian's homes it would become clear why it's so rare. Literally jumping for joy and clapping after kicking someone out of their home and watching as it crumbles in front of them. Inhuman.
So you're claiming "those monsters" includes non-members of the military who are up for conscription? I.e. every Israeli?
1), that's bad faith and 2) If you go to jail because you refused to serve, no I would not consider you a monster, quite the opposite.
This shouldn't even be news, it literally happens constantly in Israel. I personally know someone who did time for refusing mandatory service. It's considered a rite of passage by those of certain political persuasions.
Forced military service in an ethnostate engaged in genocide is a pretty righteous thing to oppose.
Conscription is yet another good reason to stop finding or enabling Israel's psychotic march to the sea.
FYI, the phrase is "rite of passage".
If my country was doing this I’d refuse too.
Prison or worse for refusing to give your life for your Leader is completely normal in any fascist regime.
Normal? It's a defining feature
Well, among other.
Please tell me of one country where you can refuse to obey a call to arms.
Most EU contries don`t have a forced Military Service. Even if they have, as.eg Germany in the past, you can select an alternative social service for an equivalent time, if you don't want become a soldier.
No European country is at war. Do you really think it wouldn't come back if war was actually starting in Europe?
Shit, this is one of the kids Hasan just had on a couple weeks ago.
Who?
I'm not sure what you mean by "who?". Are you asking me who the person that was arrested is, or who Hasan is?
Who's Hasan?
Hasan Piker. Hasanabi. Leftist streamer.
I had no clue who "Hasan" is.
I'll add to his resume, too. Destroyer of Andrew Tate, bane of the Bald and Fat (Fresh and Fit) "podcast".
That sounds like a good thing. But the dude thinks Russia is justified...??
Justified in what? If you're talking about the Ukrainian invasion that's been going on for two years, no he does not.
@Deceptichum, which one of you is right?
Does doing charity streams to raise over $200,000 for Ukrainian relief funds count as evidence? There's this cool Google machine that can answer all of your questions so you're not relying on random people online.
It actually makes me so angry that Israel gives religious exceptions, but you can’t have a moral one. What the fuck how does that contradiction not start a civil war
That's pretty intense, good luck to them.
Good for him for standing up for his ideals. Also, this is not news because this is what happens when you don't follow conscription orders.
Honestly commendable.
I would take prison not just for obvious ethical reasons but also because I don't want to be shitting diarrhea in my battlefield diapers.
What’s legal and what’s moral are rarely the same
Good on him.