While text based messages on usenet may be dieing, the file sharing is still quite popular. My radar and sonar still pick up plenty of signals.
this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
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Well the issue with Usenet is the following:
- Usenet is quite old
- Usenet is not very well known.
- Usenet has many barriers to entry.
- Usenet groups have garnered an exclusionary reputation.
- Other easier options have existed for a long time for basic social media interaction.
Usenet also largely became a venue for bootlegging and porn -- and due to the nature of the protocol, companies hosting Usenet services didn't want to have to store all of that shit. After about 1995, you didn't go there for discussion anymore. Eternal September messed it up. Lemmy is fortunate that you can't really use it for file sharing, a few images notwithstanding, or the same thing would happen.
and due to the nature of the protocol, companies hosting Usenet services didn't want to have to store all of that shit.
You can opt not to carry certain newsgroups, eg skipping alt.binaries.* would reduce your storage requirements drastically.
The fact of the matter is that people wanted something more "instant and accessible" than newsgroups that were synced overnight, and modern social media sprang from that desire.
It should be emphasized, the above list is accurate for Social Interaction as the discussions and text have indeed waned. It does mention that at the end, but still.
For media sharing specifically, many of those above items are either trivial OR are actually what helps it thrive. Somehow, 30 years later, we're still under the radar and maxing out connection speeds without having to VPN, seed, share or dodge ISP rules and DMCA requests.
Nntp is easy to set up and run.
There's a webUI and a forum front-end for nntp.
Nntp is as well-known as MC files (if you need to. You know).
An internal slack is as exclusive.
Email<->nntp gateways exist. What's easier than email ?
I don't think irc and usenet is dead. It's still used a lot for piracy.
I think it comes to down to the definition of "dead". Both are certainly dead for the reasons they were created.
Either you die a hero...
They're dead as social media; all anyone uses them for is piracy these days and not to, you know... Talk to people.
I think IRC could be made more appealing pretty easily though. Just make a client for it with a slick UI and features like Discord has (like voice and video chat, not simply text), and then allow any Nitro-like shit for free.
I still use irc every day for legitimate work/technical support purposes.
what kinda product do you work on?
Historically I've been a Unix/Linux/VMware sysadmin, though I've moved into a professional services role doing automation/orchestration/config-management.
There's a lot of good IT/Development technical channels on IRC, especially on libera.chat and oftc.net, since freenode went down the drain.
Historically I've been a Unix/Linux/VMware sysadmin, though I've moved into a professional services role doing automation/orchestration/config-management.
Are you me?
Honestly, your nick is familiar, so I'd only rejoice to hear you were in the 07974 for Unix during such exciting times (Random love, shadow legal, blue November etc).
Go learn mgmtConfig!
Afraid that wasn't me. Though I've used this nick in many places over the years, including various tech/sysadmin IRC channels, and other social media sites.
I'm old, but does anyone remember alt.pave.the.earth? And the spinoff alt.chrome.the.moon?
I found my first girlfriend over Usenet. de.rec.sf.starwars. You can probably still find my messages in archives.