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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's almost like it was never about helping Ukrainians

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

I, for one, am shocked!

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ooo we need a Jack Horner emoji. Who do I @ for that?

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

It's not like they haven't had every second of hte entire cold war to watch what happens to America's proxy forces from the inside.

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

dont-laugh they actually thought to spend the money on defense instead of running away with all of it

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

I'm sure Zelensky has actually run away with at least some of it.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

America worshippers aren't the brightest bunch. I'm sure there were Ukrainians that could see what was happening and I feel a great amount of empathy for them. The ones posting in English on Twitter about how the orcs will be wiped out? Not an ounce of it.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Especially the ones who told me I was dumb for saying republicans were gonna fuck them over and they scolded me for "lying about my fellow americans and being delusional"

Fucking told you so, again

[–] edge@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Damn, it's almost like the US treated this war as a closeout sale of its old military hardware.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago
[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago
[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Words said by one of the deadest guys there's ever been.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago
[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Lmao what a fucking baby brain you would have to have to write that tweet

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One step closer to a NATO country getting 9/11'd by Azov.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

"I really though the country that skipped town on Afghanistan in the dead of night was in it for the long haul with me..."

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

but.... we are white......

10 words too many in that tweet

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

tbf who the fuck else were they gonna turn to, not a whole lot of other rich parties alligned against Russia willing to throw down cash, the real thing he should be saying is this is why you should never give up your nukes. No matter what they promise you, do not under any circumstances give away your nuclear weapons. Unless you're Isreal then you should definitely give up your nukes, ignore what I just said.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

also dont shell your own citizens for years when there's a stronger neighbor willing to defend them... but i guess it's a super easy mistake to make.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's overly reductive and I don't care to have a conversation about it because it will provide nothing of value. If you took everything RT/Sputnik reports at face value then sure that's definitely what happened, the shelling started in a vacuum, they just started doing it for no reason at all other than their hate for Russophones, but I think that's a whole lot of cope. I don't support any of the millitary actions Russia or Ukraine has taken including the shelling, but I'm also not naive about what was going on leading up to it. Ideally the USSR would have stayed together to avoid all this mess which I think we both agree on.

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They can align with Russia, the country they share a border and language with.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm talking about after they are invaded clearly and I think boiling it down to language is a bit reductive, I think the USSR shouldn't have been illegally dissolved, but I also think that that doesn't give Russia permission to bully it's former soviet neighbors bc of "spheres of influence" because it ended up being the biggest soviet republic post split I'm not John Mearshimer, I don't think "Russia should have "spheres of influence" because America does" there shouldn't be any. I do think if Ukraine kept it's nukes that Russia would not have invaded recently or in 2014, I'm sure there would have been tension, but I don't think there would have been any major millitary action if they were both nuclear states.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry but who didn't see this coming the second Russia didn't get steamrolled

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Literally the first president advised future leaders to abandon allies whenever they stop serving American interests. Voteball fans should’ve learned this rule before they started playing

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

took him long enough to learn that lesson