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Just recently I was in a conversation with a number of UK mainlanders and we had a debate over what "tories" meant, apparently disproportionately ordinarily it refers to a political party and it's not usual to use it as short for "territories" as I've used it (according to how the debate ended, it was half and half between them). And once again I'm reminded of how people feel to look back at their usage of a word/phrase over the years and cringe.

More tragically, me and a friend were embarrassed once upon realizing everyone was confusing "encephalitis" with "hydrocephalus" when talking to someone about their kid with hydrocephalus. Awkward because encephalitis is caused by HIV.

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[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

every word i use is right, its the english language that is wrong

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I was homeschooled and was basically educated by books, so I have a massively large vocabulary and I mostly use it correctly.

But pronunciation? I'm fucked.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You have "a massively large vocabulary" and couldn't think of anything other than "massively large"? πŸ€”

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was raised by dyslexic wolves in a dixie cup full of turds and was basically educated by punches, so naturally my encyclopedic repertoire of words is aptly humbled by the plentiful platitude of my somewhat planar pronunciation.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Come on, that's still super better than all the super unimaginative kids who super use super as a superlative every super single sentence

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I take your point, but please consider: People who like to show off their checks thesaurus prodigious vocabularies are generally insufferable to be around.

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[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My wife is the same. Very well read, but never learned the pronounciation of her fancy words.

Imagine the look on her face when I explained that the "hors d'oeuvres" she read about in books are the same thing as the "or durves" she was serving at the party.

I had the opposite, I always thought the word "grandiose" I saw in books was the word "grandeur" that I hear people say, so I always read "grandiose" as "grandeur" and thought "grandeur" was spelled that way. Whenever I heard people say "gran-di-ose" I would pipe up "uh, actually, it's pronounced grandeur, the s is silent".

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[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Encephalitis is caused by viral infections. Our immune system usually suppresses said viruses, and HIV takes away the ability to suppress them.

This happens with a lot of illnesses... thrush, Tuberculosis, fungal infections. HIV allows a lot of stuff to have far worse impact than it normally would.

That's not quite the same as HIV causing them... Pedantic maybe, but since we're talking about words meaning things... ;)

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Encephalitis literally just means "in the brain inflammation".

https://www.etymonline.com/word/encephalitis

This brain inflammation can be caused by many things. Quote from Mayo Clinic:

Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain. There are several causes, including viral infection, autoimmune inflammation, bacterial infection, insect bites and others.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/encephalitis/symptoms-causes/syc-20356136

[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It can also be caused by prions. Mad cow disease is aka bovine spongiform encephalitis. I believe the word just indicates cell death in the brain which leaves regions of dead tissue.

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[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 31 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Oh in English -- I used to say renumerate (numerate a second time) instead of remunerate (pay someone for a thing).

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Me too!! I'm Italian and I used to say "renumerare" instead of "remunerare".

If you're curious, the verb comes from Latin "munus" = service/duty/tax

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

holy... well, blow me.

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[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Freedom.

Apparently where I live it means torture people till they off themselves.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Either you're being edgy or you live somewhere truly horrendous.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

How about " till " in English vs " 'til " ?

In English, a till is a cash drawer or a plough. The abbreviation for "until" is " 'til ".

I see it in subtitles. I worry for society.

[–] junderwood@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I used the term 'pursuant' incorrectly for a long time. I thought it meant something like 'things you do in order to achieve something', like sweeping the floor is pursuant to getting the kitchen clean, vs the correct usage, which is either 'in accordance with', or 'in a manner conformable to'. So a correct usage would be 'sweeping the floor is pursuant to the procedure we set up to clean the kitchen'. Nice word, though. I like it.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago

As a foreigner I would have made that same mistake, since it sounds like it’s related to pursuit. Educational comments in this

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[–] Linnce@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought phallic (fÑlico) meant flawed (falho) and used it so much. I cringe when I remember this 😭

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[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Awkward because encephalitis is caused by HIV.

From the NHS website:

Encephalitis is most often due to a virus, such as:

  • herpes simplex viruses, which cause cold sores (this is the most common cause of encephalitis)
  • the varicella zoster virus, which causes chickenpox and shingles
  • measles, mumps and rubella viruses
  • viruses spread by animals, such as tick-borne encephalitis, Japanese encephalitis, rabies (and possibly Zika virus)

Encephalitis caused by a virus is known as "viral encephalitis". In rare cases, encephalitis is caused by bacteria, fungi or parasites.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is encephalitis caused only by HIV, though?

I seem to think it was a thing before HIV.

[–] zipkag@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

You are correct. -itis just means inflammation or infection, encephalon just means brain. You can have encephalitis caused by multiple things, viruses, bacteria, fungal, auto immune diseases and so forth

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[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I happily described a nice coffee shop as "kitschy" to the guy behind the counter and quickly learned from his reaction that it isn't the synonym for "artsy" that I thought it was.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

It means "a naive imitation" for anyone who's ears are turning red now. Puts on a wool cap.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And here I thought it meant quirky, fuck

[–] bran_buckler@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

If I’ve literally learned anything, it’s that if a bunch of us keep using it as a compliment to mean quirky, we can shift the meaning!

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literal has been used as a non-literal exaggeration for centuries.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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[–] MadBabs@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used poignant wrong for a long time, when it came to describing memories. I thought it meant the memories were strong, clear sensory ones but it meant sad ones.

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[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nothing too big or embarrassing, but for a while I thought "nepotism" just meant the same as "narcissism" when it's actually about favoritism towards one's family.

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[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not a super long time but I conflated apocryphal with like sagely or scholarly

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[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I lived for the better part of a decade in Vietnam thinking "Δ‘αΊ‘i lΓ½" was a loan word from English meaning "daily".

It actually indicates an agent (like a reseller) -- e.g. a lottery ticket seller, news stand, and so on. "Daily" just worked in all those contexts by coincidence.

I also mix up "in stock" (in a warehouse) and "available". So an analogy is I often ask people if they have "a clock in their warehouse" instead of if they "have the time".

Also probably two dozen equally weird things I'm not even aware of. People are pretty chill about it, mostly because the number of people without Vietnamese heritage that speak the language in any capacity, rounds down to zero.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In Germany, it's really popular to call each other "Digga" as a way of saying "Dude" or "Man". Its origins come from the word "Dicka" (read: hey fatty, hey thicko), but the Hamburg dialect changed the k to a g.

I, uh, thought it came from a different route via the US. I was wrong...

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[–] viralJ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can I submit an expression? "Have the work cut out for you". My thinking was "there was a lot of work, but my boss said I'll have the work cut out for me. Phew, now there's less work after some of it being cut out!"

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to say "worth nothing" while, obviously, the correct way is "worth noting".

However, given how many Google results are there about the wrong spelling, I'm clearly not the only one.

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[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The word Segue meaning transition.

Always used Segway instead which was incorrect.

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[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

I have bad hearing so I mostly just mispronounce words...

[–] Azteh@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Nonce. I've always used it just like Dunce. Turns out it does in fact not mean the same and instead means pedo.

In cryptography, a "nonce" is a number used only once. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_nonce

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