Sounds very submissive.
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Sounds very platonic, masochistic, weak, or (all 3) Christian Virtue..
Rather, we should treat others as you wish to be treated... And then when their response is sure, "treat others as you have been treated." Love those who deserve love, and destroy those who deserve wrath. A law of basic human nature.
a reminder that these "values" from religion have been used to keep slaves in line
I would argue that anyone who adopts these values is a slave to themselves, controlled by whoever claims to share these values but in fact uses them for control. These values no longer serve our self-interest or nature, and as the entire point of values is to make judgement of relative "right" and "wrong" from one's own perspective, we should be free to mold them as need be.
Religious values serve to externalize one's own will to a "god." This rationalizes why nature is able to get away with what is "forbidden" (for the purpose of making the masses feel guilty and fall back to the priests for forgiveness). When we realize that values are not absolute, and can be molded according to individual will, we do away with the need for a "god" to externalize our personal moral preferences.
As Nietzsche said, when god dies, we must each become a god unto ourselves, or try to lie to ourselves that god still lives and remain slaves to the externalized will of the long-dead others who invented him.
I disagree, I don't see pacifist values as weak at all , quite the opposite in fact.
I don't agree with a lot of religious teachings, but this is one thing I think they (in theory if not in practice) get right.
Least Nitzschean elefant.
The elephant forgives
But he never forgets
That's just rhetoric people tell themselves to convince themselves they have power they actually don't.
You know what happens when you tell an enemy you forgive them? They respond, "Excellent! I'm no longer responsible for doing THIS," and then they repeat the behavior you sold out your self-respect thinking you could score a gotcha moment over.