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I'm back in good health and should start posting serious theory discussions instead of talking about football all the time.

Post ideas here. Upbearing comments will be interprebeared as an expression of interest.

It would be good etiquette to mention the length of the book, as it's relevant to choosing.

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[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution (352 pages) - Vincent Bevins

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago
[–] chicory@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been curious about this one.

[–] moonlake@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TrueAnon and Chapo both had the author on the show to discuss the book, the trueanon ep was especially good

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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

A few recommendations based on what seemed to make the earlier book clubs really cook:

After an initial post like this, choose 5 titles or so and make a poll, then give people enough time to find a copy of the text and start reading.

Sticky each post to the front page for the entire week until the next one.

@ every single user who commented on any previous book club discussion or meta-discussion like this in every post starting with the poll (or honestly this current thread). These are the users who are interested in reading and discussing, you don't want them to not know there's a new book club because they were touching grass on the wrong day.

Clearly state the reading goal a week ahead of time

Upload the text to perusal.com - I didn't use it but it seemed like other comrades really liked the interactive nature that everyone was leaving comments on the text itself? Honestly I don't exactly know how it works but that's what I gathered.

I'll try to join, I've read a few of the big texts suggested and am reading one of the others so I should be able to find some time to review my old notes

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

please include me in the ping list

[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah perusal was sooooo nice a couple years back. I read everything as a back catalogue when we were reading bookchin

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

I was going to do an Unmasking Autism (Dr. Devon Price) book club in the neurodivergent comm if anyone is interested

EDIT: Thinking of getting it going early next month. I'll need to do some prep work, re-read the book (currently finishing his prior book Laziness Does Not Exist and finding unexpected insights there too) and think up some discussion questions for each chapter. This one hit me hard and I've been trying to present it to other people in a way that does it justice. I feel like this will be a good avenue to pursue that.

[–] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This would be amazing.

I am currently trying to get my hands on the new Empire of Normality-book myself, read it was about capitalism and neurodivergence especially. Currently writing my bachelors about neurodiversity in the context of welfare states (control, normativity etc.) and the commodification part of it all is a worrying question that I am working on forming an understanding in.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

PDF

epub

Ping me or pm me if you are trying to track down a digital copy of a book and you can't find it on the major sites.

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[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] voight@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Library Genesis 😎🧩📖

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Please tag me when this happens?

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
[–] nobloat@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

I've always wanted to read it

[–] Jobasha@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Literally started this yesterday.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Didn't we already book club this three years ago?

Edit: yeah we did

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Harry Potter and the Cursed Child

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

I'm the teacher and you're the class clown

[–] Jobasha@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How Europe Underdeveloped Africa - Walter Rodney (312 pages)

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Ooh yeah this is on my list

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cockshott – Towards A New Socialism (199 pages)

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I found this book to be very helpful to me to understanding socially necessary labor time (abstract labor) and how central planning in a social state can work.

However, Paul Cockshott is a massive, unrepentant transphobe. Felt like that should be pointed out.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

im so glad to hear you are in good health vampire!

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Thanks comrade

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

The Poorer Nations: A Possible History of the Global South 320 pages

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Piketty's Capital in the 21st Century (700 pages)

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Kwame Nkrumah, Neo-Colonialism, the Last Stage of Imperialism (205 pages)

[–] voight@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Where's the list of past book clubs?

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There isn't one afaik but that's a good idea. To my memory we've done Debt: The First 5000 Years and Bullshit Jobs by graeber, How to Blow Up a Pipeline by Andreas Malm and there was an attempt to do The Wretched of the Earth by fanon but it didn't really seem like people knew that one was happening.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

there was an attempt to do The Wretched of the Earth by but it didn't really seem like people knew that one was happening.

sadness

[–] voight@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ok we've got overlap there cool. How about The Dialectics of Dependency by Ruy Mauro Marini? The English translation is only a few years old.

https://files.catbox.moe/0tphtj.epub

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] voight@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also a lot of Samir Amin's later stuff if you all like it

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I've got him on my list but haven't made it to him yet

[–] voight@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Lot of articles of his on MR to start you off:

https://monthlyreview.org/author/samiramin/

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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

There's only been two since I started modding this forum:

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

more of an idea, if someone has some good reads on Palestine that feels relevant and you should drop a rec.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

[None: Vampire should only post about football]

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

There's a number of good books by Ilan Pappé on Palestine/Occupied Palestine but it's hard to pick between them and I'm not really in a place to commit to a reading club atm so I think I'll just float the idea if anyone wants to take up the charge.

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I got a hold of books like Red Road to Freedom by Tom Lodge - It's about the history of the South African Communist Party. Pretty great so far. I could perhaps read it to the class.

I also have Armed and Dangerous and International Brigade against Apartheid, both by Ronnie Kasrils, though a mate at work is borrowing the latter.

There's also Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela; Why Israel? Anatomy of the Zionist Apartheid and Shattering Zionist Myths, both by Iqbal Jassat/Surya Dadoo.

Some forewarnings: The books do reference primary sources from "that time" in South African history, so there will definetely be the occasional hard-R and hard-K present. Also for the books regarding Isisrael, there is going to be quite several descriptions of death and gore.

Death to America

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Red Road to Freedom is a great one and I really wish people would read up on the Communist Parties besides the AES ones.

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ouch, I knew I was behind on my bell hooks, but yea

Anyway, that's what I thought the reading group was.

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Radhika Desai- Capitalism, Coronavirus and War (266 pages)

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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

@Vampire@hexbear.net

I would read Historical Materialism: A System of Sociology by Nikolai Bukharin

or

Monopoly Capital by the people that founded Monthly Review (Sweezy and the other guy).

Edit: If anyone wants to do a "separate" book club, then let's try it.

I haven't read Monopoly Capital yet and I wouldn't mind reading Historical Materialism: A System of Sociology again.

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