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    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Me when I have to compile something myself: :(

    Me when I install something from the AUR: yay

    Edit: I don't use Chaotic AUR though. I'm more lawful neutral.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Me when I have to compile something myself: :(

    Me when I install something from the AUR: pikaur

    Hmm doesn't sound quite right in my case

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

    I'm totally stealing that. Thank you :D

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

    I liked that

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    yay

    Btw, "sudobin" : "ssu" rocks, no password needed.

    [–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just always write your own PKGBUILDs and never use the ones from AUR.

    In fact, just write your own PKGBUILDs rather than using the Arch repos.

    Make Arch Gentoo Again.

    [–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I don't get all the noise around AUR being unsafe. Just verify the PKGBUILDS whenever you install or update something.

    [–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Just verify

    requires basic programming knowledge or at least some time to get familiar with PKGBUILDs, and then they have to take the time to read it.

    Yes, I agree people should at least look up where it loads data from, but people are lazy.

    [–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I would argue that it's their own fault then. Laziness is not a valid excuse to put yourself so much at risk. If you start doing it consistently, it becomes a habit and won't take much effort. Of course, the familiarity with PKBUILD syntax has a learning curve

    But a peer-reviewing system would be a better approach in AUR. Weird that it's not been implemented yet.

    [–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I guess it can be assumed that a good number of people read the PKGBUILDs, so at some point malware would be found. A peer-reviewing system would give people a false sense of security, since the AUR is a user repository, where breakage should be expected (compared to the official repos).

    [–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    How would peer reviewing in a user repo be more a sense of false security compared to official repos? I don't know any of the arch maintainers, so for me it's also pure trust they don't do shady stuff.

    Peer reviewing would not be failproof for sure, but at least it would give more security than not reviewing the pkbuilds, and especially to those that aren't too familiar with them

    [–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

    You're right, a peer-review system would be a net positive. Should updates be reviewed before publishing? This means updates take longer to arrive.

    [–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

    That would be slackware current.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Don't talk about chaos until you've used the AUR on Manjaro.

    [–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago

    Call me traditional, but I find regular AUR to be chaotic enough.

    [–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    At some point my arch system was more than half aur git packages.

    So I just nooved to gentoo now and wait 5 hours for qtwebengine to compile for qutebrowser.

    Don't regret it.

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Reminder that compilation from source is absolutely futile to support because of the arbitrary nature of libs and deps on the machine at time of build and replication of the environment for repro. KThx

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

    Right, that's why I use Gentoo.

    Shit just works.

    [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

    If AUR is a golden hook I am that fish.

    [–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    What's this about chaotic being unsafe?

    [–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You can't inspect pkgbuild with Chaotic since Chaotic compiles the packages for you.

    [–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 years ago

    Yeah. Most chaotic packages are pre built binaries. Saves you time, and usually not problematic, but has the potential to screw you in a big way. Kinda like opening anything in Outlook in Windows.