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I've found my finishing problem: I'm building things out of pine.

Traditional stain, gel stain, urethane, tung oil, danish oil...on oak, cherry or maple many of these look fine. No matter what I put on pine, it comes out looking like a septic prolapse.

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[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Keep experimenting and refining.

Pine can be stained and finished. Oak, cherry, and maple can sometimes look like crap. It's a matter of preparing the wood properly. Try making sample boards. Sand consistently, don't skip grits, don't apply much pressure to the sander (let it do the work,) experiment with a pre-stain conditioner. It can help minimize splotching and some tooling marks.

Traditional (penetrating) stain needs to be applied evenly and benefits greatly from pre-stain conditioner.

Gel stains (sometimes called wiping stains, but that term gets misused) are wipe on, wipe off excess about five minutes later if you weren't already doing that. They are made to sink in a certain amount and stop.

Urethanes don't typically do well with back brushing, especially fast dry varieties. Spread urethanes thick and consistently and try not to go back over it. Lightly sand at 220 or 320 between coats and remove swarf with tack cloth or lint free cloth lightly dampened with alcohol.

Tung oils are rubbed in. Danish oils are applied thinly. These are relatively similar. Lightly sand between coats like above.

The book "Understanding Wood Finishing" by Bob Flexner is an astoundingly comprehensive book on the subject.

Don't give up on pine just yet. Hemlock, heart pine, many others can all be quite beautiful in the right setting and application. For rough stuff, try the pre-stain conditioner

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pine is so soft and the pores are so big that it soaks up everything. For me, pine is for painting.

[–] youRFate@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Some woods are meant for the oven.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me I think pine is for the compost heap. The entire genus is dead to me.

[–] Styxia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do you typically make, out of interest?

[–] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Well not finished pine, for starters.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

I’ve built lots of stuff from pine and stained it, but I was never super happy with the result.

Some stains have a dual sample card where it shows how it will look on oak, and another on pine. I never got close to what their pine reference example looked like. It was like you need to have a few drinks first and then it looks sort of accurate.

That’s not to say that stained pine looks BAD in and of itself, but it feels dirty to even call it “staining” when it’s such a far cry from how hardwoods look when they’re finished.

Something something it’s called stain when it’s from the hardwood part of France, but here in Pine Country, we call it sparkling dye. 🤷