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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Batman would definitely be pro-Israel. Joker doesn't give a fuck, but might go pro-Palestine purely to fuck with Batman

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the Injustice storyline Superman stops a drone attack, implying that in the regular universe America just like in the real world also kills tons of civilians with drone attacks but Superman lets it happen.

The DC heroes are not saviors of the planet, they're saviors of Western countries.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The DC heroes are not saviors of the planet, they're saviors of Western countries

That’s all comic book heroes. If there was an afghan superhero who destroyed drones or a Vietnamese superhero who lurked the jungles, they would be classified as evil monsters and face the full might of Avengers and Justice League

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the boys had a plotline about some Afghani superhero. I could be wrong though

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah there is a whole plot where the US freaks out because non-white countries started having super heroes also

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

seeing the bat signal illuminated in the night sky, batman rushes to his bat-email and drafts a letter to nyu demanding the immediately expulsion of several freshman students

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

The bat signal shines above Gaza. The batplane strafes apartments below.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

He wouldn’t be drafting emails. He’d just stalk the students as they’re going to their cars after a protest and assault them and leave them dangling on top of the library

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Well, Joker was once the Iranian diplomat assigned to the UN

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

wayne enterprises has an office in tel aviv

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"[thing i like] is [pop culture protagonist], [thing i don't like] is [pop culture villain]

this is my worldview, and no amount of "theory" or "getting dunked on" will ever change it"

Head empty, no thoughts. Lobotomized by liberal media consumption.

[–] AlicePraxis@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

the woman who made this tweet is a muslim who is pro-palestine, it's a joke

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

except there are stories where he goes after dirty cops, real cops wouldn't do that

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

He's Dorner.

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

I get my morality lessons from fictional American billionaires

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given that Batman's favorite pastime is beating up carricatures of neurodivergent and mentally ill people in precarious situations, he would obviously choose to be active in an area that cannot offer any support to these groups because the entire medical and social infrastructure has been destroyed.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tired of this shitty take, if a neurodivergent person is about to poison the city you don't just leave them be. He beats them up because the alternative is to just kill them, and he genuinely is trying to rehabilitate them. Arkham keeps failing to do this for one reason or another. "oh them he should fix Arkham" he has tried repeatedly. "he should fix the problems of poverty" he's also tried to do this. The reason he can never quite finish it is because if he did we wouldn't have batman stories anymore.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your last point is the problem! He could use his ridiculous money and power more effectively - he's a fucking multibillionaire head of a global megacorporation (and often arms manufacturer/military supplier so yeah great job Brucey). He could fix Arkham easily with his pocket change, it's just not done because yeah the story "needs" him to beat up mentally ill and neurodivergent people. That's the meta-criticism of Batman as a character and franchise, that it is in no small part fundamentally grounded and based on those things.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A massive part of the character has always been him donating to charity, start up foundations, and finding ways to help people. Like yeah, it is a valid critique that all the villains are depicted as neurodivergent, this does not make it batman's in universe fault that he has to fight them. The writing is built not to resolve, so every time he makes some fix to gotham it gets undone. That's a critique of the comics industry as a whole, not batman's in-universe failing. It bothers me that people criticize the character batman, who often is doing the best he can in the stories he is in, instead of the story itself. It's just as weirdly thermian to act like gotham's problems are his fault.

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

no one here likely cares about batmans 'in universe fault', this is a meta-analysis of the franchise as a media product. avoid diegetic essentialism

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

The post is about how the charavter would react to real world politics

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Jesus was a Palestinian refugee born into a Roman military occupation. I have a feeling his position on Palestine would not be warm to the occupation.

And at least he was probably a real person that actually existed at one point.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Watch this Batman!

I'm turning all of Gotham's water into wine and feeding it's poor with a fish and two loaves of bread!

Batman: This is literally the angriest I have ever been

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At what point does something stop being a military occupation and just become integrated into an empire? genuine question.

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the neat part, it doesn't! Empire is always enforced with military occupation, even if sometimes that military occupation takes the form of so-called "police forces."

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just don't feel like that works in every case though. Rome conquered many places that still considered themselves Roman after the empire started to collapse. At some point they were just part of it.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd say it's the point where hegemony instead of brute force works as the primary control mechanism.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

I think that works pretty well, thanks.

[–] Candidate@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

All you'd need to get Bruce wearing a Keffiyah is showing him one orphaned Palestinian child.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

batman is indeed a fascist

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Oh God, can you imagine a comic where Batman hears about this genocide and his reaction is to blame Hamas for the deaths of Gazan civilians?

(What's left of) A Gazan family begs the Justice League on a monitor for help and Batman asks them if they condemn Hamas before terminating the line because they're still begging for help without condemning Hamas.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Gotham = Gaza

Batman = IDF

Joker = hiding in a tunnel under the hospital

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago
[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Someone tell Mark Hamill

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

probably not wrong lol

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It might be an interesting superhero story where there's a Palestinian superhero fighting for the people of Gaza, the villains are both Israeli supersoldiers and a blatant expy of the Justice League.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no please you're not making capeshit better you're making geopolitics worse

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

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