this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
107 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15897 readers
1 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
all 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reject screenshots. Post partial pics of articles printed on newsprint. Embrace tradition.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This include the Uyghur genocide?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, that's still a genocide as is Ukraine

Also, BLM is genocide too

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every day I read a story which makes me think Zionists have finally reached the most depraved point a human can reach. Then the following day it seems quaint compared to the new shit they're doing.

What the absolute fuck.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It feels like even just witnessing their manaical contortions drags me further into madness

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I'm living to see man-made horrors beyond my comprehension and I don't like it.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Fine, ethnic cleansing then

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

If you're trying to redefine genocide... chances are there's a genocide...

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why did they have to politicize the word genocide smh

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

The value of a human life has always been political.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Any time the headline is in the form of a question the answer is "no".

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

That TikTok guy who makes up all the parody WSJ/NYT headlines should just turn it in at this point

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Did anyone read the article? The problem stated is that genocide is used so much now it's not given the gravity that it deserves. The the problem is apathy and ambivalence. The words weight no longer carries the horrible meaning it describes.

Smaller atrocities, ones with tens of thousands of deaths, are being called genocides, while those with hundreds of thousands of deaths are not.

There is no ambiguity in the definition of the word, but it's usage has been used ambiguously and has eroded the interpretation of those who hear it. In practice most can't deny that there has been attempted genocide, but that atrocity doesn't sound bad either, when that could mean a third of a population died is only 'attempted genocide'.

The problem is the word has lost its meaning and with it, using it doesn't convey the atrocities that it's uniquely designed to describe.

[–] arabiclearner@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok so when China supposedly "genocides" uighurs (which has been thoroughly debunked), it's ok to call it genocide?

But when the word is used against what IS actually a genocide against the Palestinians, well then it's all (in annoying reddit nerd voice): "UMm, Ackshually... we shouldn't be using that word anymore! I AM VERY SMART!!! PLEASE FEEEMALES DATE ME!!!"

Maybe there's a deeper discussion to be had on when the word is appropriate to use, but this article is 100000000000000% only doing it because they are worried about the term being applied to Israel. They are not having a good faith discussion about this. They are weaponizing this sort of philosophizing to obfuscate their real objectives. fuck them, don't engage with this obvious ploy, just make fun of them until they run away crying

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

sunday papers going ham lol

next tell us how israel isn't a colony and the nyt article is also cool and good

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Genocide was never defined as a kill count contest.

It's always been wrapped up with intent and clear delineation of the destruction of a population.