The idea that pointing out that modern "democracy" is a sham that's hurting us all in the name of capitalism, is in any way comparable to a racist dog whistle, only goes to show your privilege and wilful ignorance

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic-eric-holder-our-unfinished-march-nick-seabrook-one-person-one-vote-jacob-grumbach-laboratories-against-democracy

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I typed out a like 6 paragraph explanation of why it’s both of their faults that this is happening. Suffice to say that this is just the latest iteration of a fight that’s been going on for a very VERY long time. At times the Palestinians were in control and horrible, and now the Jews are returning the favor. These two assholes have done nothing but make it worse every time they got a chance to make it better.

That’s why I literally don’t care what happens to either. They are both horrible and I’m a poor person on the other side of the world. Even IF I cared. I lack the money and resources to do anything about it, and debating with people on the internet about things that we can’t change and don’t fully understand is a modern day Sisyphean task.

Edit: wait are we talking US politics? In that case both sides do suck. But one is trying to kill trans and gay people and I can’t support that. So, Biden it is.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also thought it was about Israël and Palestine. You are absolutely right, also the 3 noes didn't help. For anyone that doesn't know

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution

At some point the Arabic countries said

No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, No recognition of Israel

This really didn't help at all and basically made the conflict much worse to resolve.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the link, I didn't know that. There's also the first "no" which was the Arabs saying no to the UN partition plan of mandatory Palestine.

It reminds me of the buzz on twitter last year about "how much land should Ukraine cede to Russia in exchange for peace" and the general concensus there was also "no".

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 2 years ago

That’s why I literally don’t care what happens to either.

Tbh I respect your honesty much more than the cowards who share your opinion but try to stay on their moral high horse by saying "well akshually, both sides bad". If you think Palestinians should get genocided, just say it. If you don't care, just say it. If you do care, just say it.

MLK Jr. had a similar idea about the "moderate white", and there's a good Elie Wiesel quote in the same vein:

I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

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