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The Republican National Committee on Friday afternoon said it would pause participation in further Republican presidential primary debates, effectively leaving decisions around future debates up to media organizations and the 2024 Republican presidential candidates themselves.

"We have held four successful debates across the country with the most conservative partners in the history of a Republican primary," the Republican National Committee (RNC)'s Committee on Presidential Debates said in a statement. "We have no RNC debates scheduled in January and any debates currently scheduled are not affiliated with the RNC."

"It is now time for Republican primary voters to decide who will be our next President and candidates are free to use any forum or format to communicate to voters as they see fit," the committee said.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The RNC and DNC should both be removed from the debates and it should be turned back over to an independent third party, such as the League of Women Voters, the way it used to be.

[–] vinylshrapnel@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago

To add to this the parties should not be able to make demands and restrictions on questions of the debate runners, which is why the League of Women Voters gave it up in the first place.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

We keep holding these debates, but it seems all of our uneducated brainwashed constituents keep wanting to vote for some asshole who thinks he's too important to show up to them. So we quit. Thoughts and prayers.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The RNC’s definition of “successful” is adorable. Like a 8 year old kid that did a good job successfully pretending to be Spider Man.

[–] buffaloboobs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that's an incredibly apt analogy, thank you 😂

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Aww! You’re very welcome!

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, they really just threw mashed potatoes, spaghetti, and condensed soup at the wall then blocked the fridge while saying "it's time for Republican primary voters to choose what will be our next meal and food is welcome to jump on any wall to communicate to diners as they see fit." We all know what's in the fridge, who stocks it, and that the GOP are going to supplement their constituents'meals from there while trying to starve those who vote blue. And every time the GOP unplugs the fridge, they'll blame the Democrats for not going grocery shopping when they were trying to tell the GOP not to unplug the fridge.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Wild that this is somehow both apt, and a word salad.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Just protecting political stances that cant stand to any amount of scrutiny. Conservatives become more and more insular, needing thicker earplugs and louder megaphones.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

"It is now time for Republican primary voters to decide who will be our next ~~President~~ preferred dictator and candidates are free to use any forum or format to communicate to voters as they see fit," the committee said.

FTFY

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

lmao, I fucking bet they do

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like they know that they're pointless.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, the parties have successfully dissolved any utility or value debates once had many decades ago. it all fell over once they demanded scripted questions and LWV dropped management of the big ones.

congrats both parties. mission accomplished.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is not a both sides thread or issue. Bernie Sanders was on the ticket and he was a serious threat to the DNC.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Considering all the noise that was made online versus the reality of his turn out at the polls during early primaries it's plain to see Bernie was hardly ever a contender.

Even here and now we have apologetics and conspiracy in place of reality. Oh how I remember the theories of voter suppression instead of admitting his candidacy only really gained traction on Twitter and the like.

None of this bothers me however, as Trump would have likely handed Bernie his ass without breaking a sweat. I do have to confess that it would be nice if Bernie's sycophants used this energy to actually turn out at the polls before the presidential election. I'm still not convinced a plurality of them understand how primaries work. 🤷‍♂️

[–] deadtom@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Sure champ. The dnc wasn't leaning on the scales hillary was just such a good candidate that she lost to Trump. It's imperative you maintain that ideal otherwise you might come to the realization that you're part of the problem.

Trump would have likely handed Bernie his ass without breaking a sweat

He had a much better chance than "it's her turn" Hillary and her baggage. The problem is he actually has a history of helping people and speaks truth to power, contrary to the interests of the DNC and Corporate democrats like ole Hill. He doesn't bring in that sweet lobbying money from the ultra wealthy, just small donations actually indactive of voter support. It's why Debbie Wasserman-Shultz was giving Bernie debate questions ahead of time, to help him out... oh right that was Hillary that needed the help... because the dnc chose the candidate they wanted and needed to solidify it by any means.

Either way the reality is the DNC has shown it is incapable of being impartial, and that the whole thing is kabuki nonsense to make you think you have a choice in "choosing" the peice of shit they want you to pick. The DNC is controlled opposition for the wealthy to be able to maintain control on both sides. Not like any sane person is going to vote republican... so they limit options to only the shit sandwich while expecting you to thank them for forcing you to eat it then they bitch when nobody is excited about the shit sandwich.

Then here you are "well of course MY shit sandwich was the only choice and if THEY couldn't have won, clearly no other sandwich could have come close so stop asking to try another fucking sandwich." The dishonesty here is just fucking pathetic, but to admit otherwise would be to invite criticism for handing Trump his '16 victory, more so than is already done.