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It's amazing to realise Jeffrey Coombs played all those characters.
You know I hate to keep saying this bit it's absolutely true, I would rather trust the ferrangi than American capitalists.
The ferrangi have a book of rules detailing the ways that they are allowed to rip you off, you can be well-versed in them and by doing so actually get a good deal from a ferangi.
A human capitalist is just going to take their ball and go home with the slightest push, and help yourself to whatever they can take from you, ethics be damned.
Capitalists have a book they use too, and like the Ferengi, it has nothing to do with ethics. Unfortunately it has a lot more rules than the Ferengi book.
One of my favourite lines in all of DS9 is when Rom and Quark are arguing about where they've crash landed.
Quark says something like, "maybe we've died and gone to [ferengi heaven]".
Rom then says "or maybe we've gone to [Ferengi Hell]?"
Quark responds (and Armin absolutely crushed this line IMO): "The bar was turning a profit!"
No the Ferengi are actually too nice even for Elon
Well, they have world peace, and don't practice things like genocide or threats of mutual assured destruction.
One of my favorite moments in Deep Space Nine is when quark and Sisko are on a camping trip, and Sisko goes on the usual spiel about how greedy ferrangi are..
And Quark fires back by pointing out that his people have never had war, genocide, or slavery, and Sisko's got nothing because he knows humans can't say the same
I feel the scene is deeper than that. Quark isn’t just dunking Sisko, he’s shining a light on the fact that Sisko doesn’t see the Ferengi as they are, rather he uses the surface level similarities of capitalism to apply his human anxiety about pre-post-scarcity to them instead.
There’s also the episode where the three Ferengi go back in time to (I think) the Roswell incident in mid 20th century USA.
Quark is repeatedly appalled at the stuff the hu-mons are doing to hurt themselves and destroy the planet. Smoking and testing nuclear fission bombs come to mind.
Although they do practice slavery and piracy.
Not slavery, according to Quark.
Ok but they definitely do. Quark might not be the most reliable commentator.
Probably not. When is it shown that they practice slavery?
IIRC there's an episode of Enterprise where Ferengis try to capture the crew to sell them as slaves
Their treatment of Ferengi women is also arguably slavery.
Indentured servitude is a form of forced/coerced labour too.
"Leading"
Hyper capitalist, hyper misogyny, monopolies of business are legal, but unionizing is illegal.
He only wants the space-living because he’s a nerd and wants to create a 0th world, which is to the 1st world is to the 3rd world.
They may be greedy, but at least Ferengi are not usually racist shitbags.
Rule of Acquisition 17: A contract is a contract is a contract… but only between Ferengi
They don’t exactly treat everyone equally.
I think it's hinted that they are. I don't think they say "humARNS" like that due to a speech defect. I think they say it cos they don't like Xenos like us. They like our latinum.
Uhh... the misogyny though
It got addressed, they let females have jobs and stuff
Oh great, sexism solved then.
Did they let them wear clothes though?
Probably
Dang it!
There are multiple levels of misogyny. It doesn't end by letting them gain employment.
Also that happened at the very end of ds9, and only when the least ferengi-like ferengi ever became grand nagus, and his advisors were, his non-ferengi wife and his give-no-fucks civil rights leader mother.
That ending is hilarious to me. Societies just don't do a compete 180° over the course of a year or so. Changes at that level are very, very slow. Taking centuries in some cases. But all of a sudden, they have taxes, social programs, environmental programs, etc...
I know Ferengis are portrayed as non-violent, but I would think makes such rapid, unpopular changes would lead to some level of violence/civil uprising.
I know Ferengis are portrayed as non-violent
Even leaving the early-installment weirdness of TNG Ferengi aside, there were always Eliminators like Leck...
Sometimes they do, but not usually peacefully. Revolutions lead to rapid changes.
What are you, some kind HOO-MON feminist?
They're racist and horribly sexist.
Leads? Not me, at least.
Don't you sully the Ferengi name like that. They do a valuable service to the federation. Where else are you going to buy self sealing stem bolts on the edge of federation space?
I'll give you a nickel for a disc of dessicated Elon spine
He likes naming stuff after Culture ships but he's really Joiler Veppers
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