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[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

America is a basket case but the UK isn't much better. Both would rather criticise and shout at others rather than address their own problems.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When we humans are feeling powerless (usually, we're right), we often do those things.

When we move somewhere else, for a while we're relieved. Slowly we realize everywhere has problems.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also wherever you go, there you are.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Turns out, I just need to move away from myself.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For sure, everywhere has problems.

But I'll take all of the problems where I live now any day over the problems the US has now, and is staring down the barrel of in the near future.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd guess, with all the veterans living here, that the 'near future' isn't so dangerous.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

If we're at the point where we're talking about needing to call in veterans to ensure the peaceful transition of power, we're beyond the point of "dangerous."

Besides, I don't necessarily accept that all veterans would be on the right side if it came down to that...

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I moved within the US in part due to this. I realized that we're just on the cutting edge of the rise of neo-fascism. Europeans have their own issues, Canada has theirs too. New Zealand was always super appealing, but my specialization isn't well represented there. Australia is like fucking impossible to immigrate to, as is anywhere in the UK, so Scotland is off the list. Ireland seems like they'll take you if you have 10 bucks and promise to work and pay taxes there, but also it's pretty culturally conservative.

I feel more at home in my new state than I may have ever in my old one.

[–] 01011@monero.town 4 points 2 years ago

Ireland isn't any more conservative than most of north America and a significant chunk of the Australian and Kiwi populations.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

If you rule out Ireland because it's too "culturally conservative" for you, you're never going to find anywhere to emigrate 😂

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

My wife has dual citizenship and her country is pretty easy with her sponsoring our kids for citizenship, we are in the process. I have made my decision, if things hit the fan here I will send them to her country but I am planning to stay here and stick it out.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Me too. Especially more at home weatherwise that my old one. (Stayed too long ... just becuz my ancestors made a mistake.)

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah I made the move at the end of 2022, though it wasn't because I was trying to get away from the US or anything dramatic like that. I miss the pacific northwest quite a lot. It just so happened that my partner is from the EU and wanted us to be here close to her friends and family. I figured I was still relatively young so why not give it a shot.

It's been alright. Definitely a case of trading some pros for cons and vise versa. Moving to Europe hasn't been some transformative experience. It was a bigger life change for me moving from the US Southeast to the Northwest about 10 years ago than moving from the US Northwest to the EU.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Surely there was more to your previous move because Europe is far more different from the US than the southeast is from the northwest within the US.

Hell I got culture shock from being in Paris for a week, and I lived in Europe as a kid for years and speak some French.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like you haven't yet naturalised to your new country based on the fact you said you moved to Europe rather than the country you moved to. Europe is pretty diverse.

What country did you move to? I would have thought the language alone would make the move a greater transition than moving from southeast to northwest in the US.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I shared as much information in my comment as I wanted to

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's fair, was mostly curious what EU country was that similar to the US, as none really stands out.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Been to Germany a few times and it wasn't a whole lot different. People were a bit less friendly but things were more neat. Food and beer was decent and lower cost than I am used to paying for restaurants.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did this in '21. I'm a trendsetter

[–] 01011@monero.town 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Visas for my family - they're not citizens here, yet.