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    An oldie, but a goodie

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    [–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Honestly, I maybe get why some people are too sensitive to work in such conditions, but from my professional experience, I’d much rather prefer getting angry mail explaining why my actions are stupid, than everyone being nice to one another but the codebase is utter garbage and everything falls apart, which happens a lot in private companies.

    [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    you seem to have created a false dichotomy where it's impossible to fix bad code without being abusive. would you like me to call you "dumb motherfucker" or is this explanation enough?

    [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I think you've missed what the sin was, as well as the context of the players.

    The sin was not the bad code. Let me say it one more time for clarity: the issue was not the code

    The issue was that, when presented with the defect (inevitable outcome of any software project: not intrinsically sinful) Mauro started blaming other people on a public mailing list

    Mauro, being a maintainer, was in a position of authority. Like a police officer, their bad behaviour reflected poorly on the organization*as a whole.

    If a cop was abusing their power (publicly or not), I expect the chief of police to come down on that abuser; to make clear that this abuse is absolutely unacceptable, not only within the accute instance, but within the greater context of the expectation of the behaviour of the whole organization.

    Mauro chose the context of his abusive behaviour as the public mailing list.

    Him getting slapped down in that same forum is the direct result of his own choices.

    In the same way that I would be upset with the chief of police not publicly and harshy denouncing an abusive police officer, so would I be upset with the absence of such a response in this situation

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    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

    Or nice in person, then all the toxic bakstabbing behind the scenes.
    This reads like the Sh*t My Dad says book. The author said it seemed harsh to some people, but the bonus was there was never any passive agressiveness, and you always knew exactly where you stood.

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    [–] 0x4E4F -1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Damn... we're so lucky to have Linus... I just love him, he's just straight to the point, no bullshit... I love that!

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    [–] yournamehere@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

    yet ppl here mostly dont care about breaking the userspace and use systemd shit that breaks said space. mention it here...get a hated for pointing out lennart poettering is a wanker.

    [–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl -3 points 2 years ago

    The times when Torvalds got things done, he's gotten all soft now kek.

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