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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

bitches be like "astrology isn't real" and then post this shit

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's astrology for dudes who think they're too rational and smart for astrology

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no you're thinking of libertarianism there

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

Libertarianism is ~~reactionary politics~~ pedophilia for dudes who think they're too rational and smart for reactionary politics

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no that's multi level marketting for dudes with no social network to prey on financially

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No that's NFTs (but yes also crypto)

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

No, crypto is stockfuckery for dudes who think they're too smart and rational for banking

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Asking me if I like to be the center of attention at parties, in an attempt to describe my predilections/ predict my behavior RE parties, is no more helpful than asking me where Titan was when my mother died.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

wow i love the corporate use of bullshit personality tests to be able to say no to giving someone a job because they have "undesirable characteristics"

i love it so much i would like to stomp it to death

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah its some real creepy eugenics shit

[–] shath@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

hello i am a INFP and you are an ENTF and so you cannot be near me see the corporate internet told me so

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Seriously, I need to give Bullshit Jobs a read. None of this shit would ever come into fruition if employers all weren't such picky assholes that demanded exclusively perfect squirrels for even a cashier position.

No one would need to invent 20,000 different ways to the so-called unemployables 'no' when they need a job.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Want to point out this isn't even Jung's fault, it's some crank woman who fucked up his already shit theory.

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Erm I'll have you know Owl that I'm INTP

I Need Toilet Paper (i shitted myself)

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Astrology for comms majors

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Class selection for real life gamers

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Fr, a bit of a red-flag.

[–] python@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

INTPs be like "I'm rational and logical" but then hang out in the bathroom at 3am while cutting their bangs and shitposting, smh

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Myers-Briggs are just horoscopes for people who don't believe in horoscopes.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

It's crazy how much I've seen people list these things on their dating profiles.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

people should post their daily i ching readings instead

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

I dated a lovely lady who put too much stock in that Meyers Briggs stuff. I mean, it's whatever, do your thing, but then she started to apply it to me. That's when it started to get annoying.

It's not the only reason we broke up but it is the funniest.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

these kinds of tests concern me because when i was a kid i had to get therapy to learn empathy because i had a borderline sociopathic disorder

and the good news is that therapy works and empathy is something that can be learned especially if you are young because it worked for me

but im always super freaked out because i do still have adhd and im worried whenever some workplace pushes a test like this it'll expose me to my workplace as a sociopath who doesnt work well with others and that will come back to bite me

and additionally every question on a test like that gives me an existential crisis and a crisis of identity because my mind sometimes struggles with over analyzing what i feel and what ive worked so hard to instill in myself which is part of the therapy so its like an internal struggle session for the whole thing super fucking stressful and has me second guessing my every answer

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

but im always super freaked out because i do still have adhd and im worried whenever some workplace pushes a test like this it'll expose me to my workplace as a sociopath who doesnt work well with others and that will come back to bite me

These kinds of tests are usually similar to astrology in the sense that there are no bad results, every personality type has like strenghts and weaknesses like you're a fucking pokemon. It's horribly unscientific it's just meant to sound nice to managers don't worry.

Enneagrams 2, 7, 8 BTFO

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

A make-work program for HR professionals

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

I don't like Jung either, but this isn't really his fault

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Haha true! That's such an INTP thing to say! so-true

[–] Satanic_Mills@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We had to do Insights Discovery training at one of my old jobs, which simplifies this to four 'colour energies' to make it easier to remember.

My manager after this starting reducing everyone's behaviours down to their assigned colours; my coworker wasn't a condescending prick, he was just 'being very red, which was good for the group colour balance'.

The trainer also stated that outsourced public project cost overrruns are due to 'too many yellow energy managers'.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I can (and will) reject any philosophical tradition that gave rise to Jordan Peterson off the cuff

[–] stewie3128@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

The Psychologists in my family only refer to Myers-Briggs in an anecdote from grad school: it was used as the ideal example of how to design a terrible test.

They say that, if you're going to do a personality test, long-form MMPI is the best of them, but personality tests are just academic exercises that don't tell the therapist as much as they could learn by just talking to the patient.

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idk i kind of liked Answer to Job and the Red Book (seriously it has some baller art even if the text is basically mystical german nonsense)

but seriously like every single psychology 101 class will tell you that freud and jung's psychology are outdated and unscientific, idk why people still take this stuff seriously.

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Inventory of questions about my behavior has no correlation or predictive value about my behavior

Y'all are so goofy about this shit.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

Jungian psychology is outdated and disproven pseudoscience that uses unscientific and crank methods to determine personality traits. For example, the personality types quiz will categorize you as an emotional or rational person, throwing out the possibility of a person being both out with the bathwater. Especially when you consider that recent studies into empathy, emotions, and intelligence are actually deeply linked and you cannot have one without the other.

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

That's not what they're saying. It's a reductive measure that turns people into 16 categories, some of which are disproportionately selected against in jobs.

I can do the same job as someone who scores differently, but an interviewer can use it as an excuse to exclude me. A lot of other ND people feel similarly.

Then throw in the arbitrary history, most people can't even say what the mbti actually measures.

It's got too much influence for something that can't actually predict about a person, especially if they can change just lie to get a favorable score. It just puts more work on people.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You'll answer questions differently at different times of day and on different days of the week, all dependent on personal variables that are in constant flux. You're a different personality type before and after a nap, for example. It's nonsense.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

It doesn't when you don't even get consistent results from the same person over multiple tests

I don't think we've got personality mapped yet, but I do enjoy watching people squirm through text at the ways we can potentially quantify ourselves.

And then I squirm through text when I watch people talk about all of the ways we can potentially categorize ourselves.