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Tapper was visibly disgusted after ex-Israeli ambassador Mark Regev victim-blamed nine members of a CNN producer's family who were killed in Israeli airstrikes.

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[–] machinin@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

To give a little longer response, it is disheartening that the only response to that kind of genocide is a audible sigh. Maybe that was fine, but you have that murderer on national TV. Rake him through the coals.

Edit - Thinking more about this - if you had Goebbels on your show during WW2, what would you ask him?

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tapper had been fairly pro-Israel until now, from what I’ve seen, so I think he was only just starting to have a wake up.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's interesting to see the shift, and Israeli spokespeople are so incredibly bad at their jobs it's going to keep happening.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're bad at their jobs because they lack even a shred of empathy. They are indoctrinated into dehumanizing any perceived enemy of Isreal.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

After they've been able to silence critics with the word "antisemetism" since like WWII, they haven't really had to put much effort into brushing shit like this off. Then the Trump presidency quickly gave people a large dose of similar bad faith arguments and justifications to the point where an immunity is building up.

A tipping point was reached between this and the last time the Israel Palestine conflict flared up. The last time, I saw the bad faith in the antisemitic "argument" but it was still popular enough that it felt very risky saying anything about it. It doesn't feel that way anymore, though I do wonder how far Israel will go to try to shut up critics and how far they've already gone to maintain the political support they have in the west. They are already killing journalists, what else?

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tapper is likely waking up because of the impact so close to home (the producer).

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

That’s precisely why. That’s what it takes for some folks, sadly.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Honestly have to agree. You've got him on TV, and after that remark, you should drag that line of thinking all the way out. Make them justify it, don't just accept "oh they should've known better".

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 73 points 2 years ago

Is it so hard to remember that the Israeli government is an extreme right wing, theocratic regime.

The likelihood of your values aligning well with them or their spokespeople, even within Israel, is very low. They stripped their own supreme court of the ability to stop them doing what they wanted.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I wonder if the Israel government purposely chooses the biggest pieces of shit to be their spokesmen?

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Have you read up on anything about Netenyahu? He is king asshole over there right now. Something like 80% of the population hates their current government and, rightly, actively blames them for the entire current situation.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And yet they have voted him into office for most of the last 20 years.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have you read about their parliament in the last three years, over three months ago?

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So what? What about the last 20 years before that?

They were perfectly happy with his policies towards the Palestinians and settlement of the West Bank.

His only mistake was trying overturn the powers of the Supreme Court to save himself from corruption charges.

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[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love how they argue that Gazans are responsible for electing Hamas, but Israelis are not responsible for electing Netanyahu.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

And the last time Palestinians had an election for leadership was in 2006.

Hamas has not allowed an election since.

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[–] accidental@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard."

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go fucking where?! Move south? Okay just pack up and move south? Well actually, IDF tells them to leave everything behind and those that don't leave everything have been bombed on the evacuation routes under suspension of being Hamas. Oh and they've bombed areas they've told people to go! So, go fucking where?! With nothing but the clothes on your back, to a place with no water, food, or shelter. That probably will be bombed anyway. Ya so, GO FUCKING WHERE?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's more evacuation orders now too. So they've made about 3/4 of Gaza off limits. And of course you still can't evacuate through IDF lines. Only further towards the water...

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[–] machinin@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Time to break the apartheid State.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I see the Netanyahu coalition plan to evaporate 1 million children is progressing with the barest minimum pushback.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Once we've killed them all, lets talk again. We may even give an apology, but only if there is no one to give it to.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But does he condemn Hamas?

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I think this part of the script is to talk about his antisemitism for those comments.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Glad Jake was shocked. Good to see from him.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Never paid attention to the guy until this video in 2020. Now I know he's a corporate media talking head and all, but seems like when I do take the time to listen to him, I'm hard pressed to find where I disagree strongly. I was pretty shocked and impressed that he took it to the cops so directly in that one.

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