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Vaccines can be delivered through the skin using ultrasound. This method doesn’t damage the skin and eliminates the need for painful needles. To create a needle-free vaccine, Darcy Dunn-Lawless at the University of Oxford and his colleagues mixed vaccine molecules with tiny, cup-shaped proteins. They then applied liquid mixture to the skin of mice and exposed it to ultrasound – like that used for sonograms – for about a minute and a half.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 174 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Antivaxxers now pro-abortion to avoid forced ultrasound vaccinations.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 71 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As interesting as that would be to happen, in reality, there's just going to be a bunch more people going without pre natal care.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Which is going to be most red states in the next decade. Great time to be in the little coffin business though.

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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 159 points 2 years ago (17 children)

While this is awesome, I can already imagine anti-vaxxers are now deathly afraid of ultrasounds lol

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Brace yourselves! Vaccination with sound conspiracies coming in!

“The IRS called, they vaccinated me trough my phone in my ear!!?”

“Mass vaccinations trough radio!!?”

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

This will just be their proof of the 5G-Covid link.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ultrasound vaccines and 5G!

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago (8 children)

They were already terrified of phone signals.

Only fast ones though. Slower ones can't penetrate the skin.

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[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 109 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think that's the basic premise of the Star Trek hypospray. Pressure pushing in medicine rather than a needle.

[–] Davel23@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago

That's more like a jet injector, which we've already had for a while.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A lot slower, though. Article says it takes a minute and a half.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It takes my kid half an hour of screaming and throwing a public fit just to get within two miles of a needle, so I'll take it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Fair enough.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago

In other news, conservatives have introduced a bill to outlaw ultrasound machines.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Great, a new thing for the lunatics to rant about.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was gonna say oh now they are gonna say that's what the 5g towers are REALLY for 🙄🙄🙄

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

At this point if it was possible to orchestrate some massive conspiracy to vaccinate people en masse, we should just do that. They'll shout about it either way, but this way they'll at least be vaccinated

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is basically the fluoride 'debate'.

(Yes, fluoridating the water supply is good.)

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[–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And here come the conspiracy theories...

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

No joke. The first thing that popped into my mind when reading the title was: "great, now my father will be afraid to do an ultrasound test"

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[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hyposprays are finally here!!!!!

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I should patent a long range dart gun for vaccinating morons.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

History proves we do the cheapest, easiest, and fastest. So allow me to shit all over this idea...

  • This is slow at 1.5 mins vs a needle takes about 5 secs.
  • Takes skill to operate an ultrasound machine and probably training to get a consistent dose vs pull needle to this line and jab in arm to know you got it all in there.
  • Every Rite Aid and CVS would need an ultrasound machine vs here are these cheap disposable needles that require no power or maintenance.

Sure they might develop it faster or make a new more portable thing. But that's going to take a long long time when no one gives a shit to invest money in a new thing when needles work.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As with all new inventions/procedures, this is just the first step. The process will become faster and more efficient in the future.

In my opinion, this is a great first step towards a Star Trek-like hypospray.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago

No one is suggesting this be put in practice in its current form, that would be insane. That said, this is a good first step for alternative forms of vaccination. “First step” being the important part.

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[–] JMHershey125@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are one step closer to hypo sprays from Star Trek. I don't like needles so this will be really neat to see in mass adoption.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Hyposprays already were invented, mass produced, used as standard in the military for several years, and abandoned because they weren't as hygienic as needles.

Anything that pushes through the skin into the blood pushes pathogens in too. Statistically, needles were safer so hyposprays were abandoned.

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[–] pauljacobson@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm diabetic. This would be awesome!!

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

Sitting for a minute and a half, not including prep and cleanup, or just getting stabbed a little. shrug

Edit: To save the next half dozen people exclaiming "needles!" the trouble. I would refine my point to, "great to have the option but I imagine it as being more of a fallback than the beginning of a new era".

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also stops a lot of medical waste

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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Needle phobias are extremely common, and the thing about phobias is that you're fully aware that the fear isn't coming from a rational place, which is part of what makes them so frustrating to deal with.

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

few inches closer to Star Trek

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I knew it, the govment are poisoning us with their 5G waves!

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago

If they can do this for insulin which sounds like it's the same this is a game changer

[–] pedestrian@links.hackliberty.org 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sweet, now they can charge me $1k for a shot and not use a needle.

Last time I got an ultrasound the hospital charged me $2k. Wanted to confirm nothing was wrong with my kidneys. Turns out I was all good, but now I have an expensive bill to deal with...

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[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I guess it's interesting but this seems to have minimal use case. For those with reactions to injections and such it's useful, but it seems much easier to use a needle in most cases. Also that article claims that it "doesn't damage the skin", but I don't see why a vaccine would cause any meaningful damage to the skin in the first place.

Edit: Okay I'm seeing now how this would be useful for more frequent injections like insulin and such if it can be used like that.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It literally tears a hole in the flesh with a puncture wound. It's the definition of damaging.

Minor damage, but damage none the less.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a phobia of needles so this comes in very very handy. I just wish there was one for taking blood out.

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Vaccines just vibing their way into your body

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's how the five gee gets ya!

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[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neat. I wonder if my grandchildren will see that technology in use, because I doubt it'll happen in my lifetime.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I had a friend who would have severe reactions to injections. He wasn't afraid of needles, but his body would have weird reactions lasting about a week after having an injection. It was really problematic, so he tried to avoid them whenever possible. All this to say, I bet he'd be excited if something like this were made available to him.

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