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Senate bill aims to stop Uncle Sam using facial recognition at airports / Legislation would eliminate TSA permission to use the tech, require database purge in 90 days::Legislation would eliminate TSA permission to use the tech, require database purge in 90 days

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chances of this bill becoming a law are less than 0%

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

i long for a day when i see a policy proposal that i like and then think it has a good chance of getting passed

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Japan uses this and scans you when you enter the country. Pass through quickly when you leave country and they know you are gone. It works but could definitely be misused in a country with lower standards of moral foundation.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are we supposed to pretend that Japan's government is somehow above reproach...?

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Not really. But culturally, it is very different. Robberies are basically unknown. If someone loses a wallet, people look to return it. People on the subway are quiet and respectful. Litter is uncommon. I have been there a couple of times and sometimes wish I could live there. It is not a perfect place by any means. Just like anywhere. But it is SO different than China, S. Korea, or the US. Edit. Spelling

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People on the subway are quiet and respectful

This is the country with "women only" subway cars because there's so much sexual assault on the subway? You were a tourist. That's why they were polite to you.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not true. Never said I was a tourist. Not sure what country you went to?

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

In Japan, women-only cars were introduced to combat lewd conduct, particularly groping (chikan).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_car

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

People on the subway are quiet and respectful

Lmao I literally got someone trying to put their hand up my clothes THREE different times on the subway and my neighbour got mugged at knifepoint in the year I lived there. But sure, Japan is a crime-free utopia.

Not like Japanese cops are infamous for not prosecuting anything that isn’t a slam dunk or anything.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago

It works but could definitely be misused in a country with lower standards of moral foundation.

No problem using it in the US then..... homerfadeintohedge.gif

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Once upon a time, an artist has performed this at a train station in my city:

He walked up in front of one of the surveillance cameras, where it is known that they use face recognition all the time.

He was wearing a rubber mask resembling a human face, in good quality. (Side note: it is forbidden to go there with your face covered.)

This mask was looking like his own face.

Now the question is, has the camera seen his face, or not?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The US Transportation Security Administration's plans to expand its use of facial recognition tech, already in use at several American airports, may be over before it begins if a newly introduced Senate bill becomes law.

The bipartisan Traveler Privacy Protection Act [PDF], SB 3361, was introduced this week by Senators Jeff Merkley (D-OR) and John Kennedy (R-LA), and would stop the TSA's use of facial biometrics dead in its tracks.

"Every day, TSA scans thousands of Americans' faces without their permission and without making it clear that travelers can opt out of the invasive screening," said Senator Kennedy.

Idemia's full suite of biometric technology was recently rolled out by Interpol, which used it to make its first biometric-based arrest of a suspected smuggler who presented false papers at a police checkpoint in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

The system can detect fake IDs "very quickly," a TSA official told us in July, and is also able to verify the person is on any additional screening lists and is actually scheduled to travel in the next 24 hours.

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign computer science professor and aviation security expert Sheldon Jacobson described the senators behind the proposal as well-intentioned, "albeit ill-qualified and ill-informed" to make such a call.


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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

No facial recognition? That's fine. They still have the scanner that sees you naked. They can set up genital recognition systems instead.

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I travelled recently, and was filled with disgust when I was told to scan my boarding pass and look into the camera to get in line. I would have asked to go through an alternative line but didn't want to miss my flight.

What the fuck is wrong with people

[–] Gregorech@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I recently took a cruise to Mexico, when we returned the customs line was very quick because of this technology. It scanned my face it and gave me a green light and I moved along.

Since we were on a dedicated ship to one port I didn't even get the where are you coming from and going to questions.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You must not be brown. This kind of technology is often very racist because of training data.

[–] Gregorech@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

To be honest no one did since it was just a three-day to Mexico and only one port of call everyone was just shuffle through.

I'm not saying it can't be miss used, or that new tech is often riddled with issues. I appreciate not having to wait three hours to get through customs.

I can't imagine offloading one of the new 8000 passenger ships without this.