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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That Nokia was never a shitbox though. That was an excellent product when it launched and you’ll have a hard time finding owners who disliked it. Heck, you’re liable to get an earful for disparaging it, and rightfully ao.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Absolutely, I would also argue the same for the Hilux

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you're badass enough that they named a war after you, you're doing something right as a vehicle builder for sure.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Unless you're driving a Volkswagen Gulf

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Really wish they sold the Hilux in the USA

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I prefer the slightly newer 3410. It has a better button layout and added features such as web browser, picture editor and downloadable games (my grandma somehow has the long-lost first ever 3D Java game Munkiki's Castles on hers, which has been in daily use for 20 years). However, they are so similar that their later revisions only differed by the button placement and firmware (see Janus Cycle's video).

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yowza, that man certainly violated that 3310 in ways it's going to remember. That's a neat piece of hardware for sure.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Funny how he flashed the firmware and struggled with the incompatible button layout rather than getting a cheap second-hand 3410, even a broken one would do (are there any broken ones, though?)

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Well clearly, it's not about having a working 3410, but rather to show the progression of the 3310 hardware.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you’ll have a hard time finding owners who disliked it

Well hello there. It's been more than 20 years, but I remember the keyboard on that thing being complete garbage. It was mushy, yet knee-dialing all the time with no automatic locking. And keyboard lock was some stupid unwieldy two-hand combination. The UI was extremely clunky too with only one button and two arrows pointing who knows where, and those arrows keys tended to get sticky over time. Also it was overly heavy and bulky, with a terribly attached back cover giving it a false sense of robustness - it shattered in pieces just like any other phone of that era. I think it was rather power hungry, too, I'm not sure, but I definitely did change the battery a couple of times. Overall, though, not a terrible phone by any means, but it was neither the most advanced nor the cheapest option, just the most widely marketed one right around the time when mobile phones started booming and ended up as a lot of people's first one.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

See, I had one as well. I always had proper belt cases on my phones, so I never experienced any butt dialling or back cover issues. The keyboard lock was annoying for sure.

I always loved the weight and size of that phone generation. I’ve got giant hands and later phones just felt too small to comfortably use. Heck, I’d buy one of those giant brick phones if they sold a decent one. Give me that two week battery life!

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A few years back, I found my old ThinkPad that I bought used in about 2000 and it still worked, homemade Hayden Christensen background and all. I was so upset by evidence of 16 year old me being horny for Anakin that I almost threw it against the wall, but it probably still would've worked.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love those thinkpads so much. Perfect hybrid of functionality and physical buttons.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like that it still has the mouse clit

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Same thing here. There's2 things I do on a new thinkpad even before installing Linux on it

  1. Swap fn/left Ctrl
  2. Disable touchpad

The nipple mouse is just perfect for when you don't have access to a proper mouse, and disabling touchpad in bios just eliminates all the annoyances with touchpad such as your palm ruining the day when typing

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

keeb klit, nav nipple, GUI Gooch...

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

one thing I don't get is why the proper mouse buttons are above the mousepad

[–] Deuces@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're for the clit mouse. The bottom of the touchpad still has a physical click option

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some call it trackpoint. It's the red button in the middle of your keyboard

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

does anyone actually use that though? it's super impractical

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah there's some amount of people who like it, including me. Wouldn't use it over a proper mouse, but surely over a trackpad

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is just the better way, just as its better to swap Fn and Ctrl

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the Fn shouldn't be there at all, just add more buttons

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Often possible but no.

Thinkpads now having sticky Fn keys by default is hillarious though, people just dont use Fn keys (and I have to admit all I use is F5 and F11)

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

there are some games (Minecraft) that use the F buttons too so I find it annoying having to swap all the time

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

RIP old Top Gear. That episode was awesome.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you recollect It as one episode I have great news for you, It was more than one episode.

Enjoy part 2!

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you for the correction!

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like the death of H264 is the only thing that will make me retire my T60 ThinkPad.

[–] Whey_Isolate@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Still rocking a salvaged IBM X61 here! Got me through high school and it’s getting me through college. Makes an excellent no-distractions writing machine, sometimes I also use it as a second display for reference images when I’m doing art

[–] assplode@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Yup, my only laptop is a 10+ year old ThinkPad. Does everything I need it to do perfectly

[–] Littleborat@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

Opening beer bottles is so hard with these modern phones.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is how I identify now.

[–] mossy_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Old shitbox? I think that's me too

[–] ichmagrum@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I love it when I can still repair or modify a piece of gear. The large physical size and relative simplicity of older gear makes a big difference for that, especially for home users. And then there's the whole thing where a lot of newer stuff is just glued together, so you can't even access the insides without expert knowledge.

Back when I was making chip music, the original Game Boy was all the rage, despite the shitty display.

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

I fucking love headphones with replaceable Ear thingies

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Why redo the bottom caption with the same text except in slightly more broken English?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That thinkpad doesn't deserve this hate

[–] Grey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Don't those old nokia's no longer work because carriers have turned off everything below 4G?

[–] testuserpleaseupvote@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pedant here. 3G networks are being decommissioned in a lot of countries, turning Nokias in dedicated Snake game consoles.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 6 points 2 years ago

The phone doesn't support 3G. Why are you spreading FUD?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Hahaha not those Thinkpads

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

my turbo-x laptop (rebranded clevo) from 2009 works to this day

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I totally agree with that. I have two of them (no, not the house and the guy).