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[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Firefox is loving every week of this as they head towards launch. Market share is guaranteed to improve.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You have more faith in people’s giveashit than I do.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nah, I've seen people who were hard chrome users start to change their tune about it. A few even changed over to Firefox. Now I understand that my sample size is people I know, but even my wife asked me "how can I stop the youtube ads stuff" after noticing that I don't have to deal with that bullshit... and she's not tech literate at all.

[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The issue is that most people will just end at "well I guess I can't block ads anymore".

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

That's encouraging.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

It's not really about giving a shit, but when you're used to no ads, then seeing ads is an inconvenience. And that's usually even more potent than people giving a shit or not

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (5 children)

My 5 years old decided to switch to Firefox after I told him google chrome will not block ads on YouTube anymore.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's the iq it takes yeah. :)

Not saying anything bad about your son, hopefully you understand what I mean.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don’t talk to my son ever again! /s Yeah most adults are just very tall 4 year olds.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Proof: Elon and his Crayola-designed truck

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[–] sour@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

can you invite 5 year old to fediverse when older

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[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Firefox isn't an "alternative browser."

I didn't think Google would play the evil card, but don't trust the ad blocking abilities of software made by an advertising company, I guess.

[–] kubica@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you mean by not an alternative browser?
Are you trying to say something about the word choice or...?
Chrome is an alternative browser to Firefox too.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, i think he is speaking about the word itself. it is terrible that it is gaining negative connotation... like when people say bullshit like "alternative facts" or "alternative medicine" and the word itself slowly starts to look slightly suspicious just because it is used by morons.

[–] odigo2020@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jesus, I didn't even think of that being a reality now...

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

This bloke just realised we're living in the darkest timeline...

[–] auf@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

It's not an alternative, it's the browser you should use

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Of course it's the alternative. Has always been, even before it was called Firefox: Netscape Navigator is the alternative to Mosaic. Fun fact: Internet Explorer was a fork of Mosaic. All of Chrome, Edge and Safari are descendants of KHTML.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This website talking trash about Google ads 🤣

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is this even legal? So now suddenly every chromium extension has to go through a play store style review? How is Google entitled to do this on their competitor's browsers?

[–] b3nj@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They can do it if a competitor has forked Chromium but not bothered to provide their own addon store. For example, Edge supports its own store plus Google, Vivaldi only supports Google

[–] Dizzirron@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not hard to believe these rumors of super low morale within the industry are true.

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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I switched to FireFox slightly before all this Adblock-Drama came up. Simply because i realised Chrome was getting ridiculously slow ._.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What happened to the ad blocker detection thing a month ago. Did Google remove it or does uBlock Origin have a permanent workaround now rather than needing to clear cache and reload?

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's still an ongoing war, but with Manifest V3, Google will have an advantage over adblockers because they will be in full control over the frequency of extension updates, how many ad blocking rulesets they'll allow, and perhaps when no one is looking, prevents those rulesets from targeting their own domains. The latter is the nuclear option that'll instantly piss off the whole tech world if implemented now, but perhaps slow boiled frogs won't notice it once the heat is high enough.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Setting up a huge privacy lawsuit by trying to force us to allow these horrendous advertising tracking scripts.

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[–] micka190@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

They regularly try to add things to break it, and uBlock's devs update it as fast as possible. They'll probably slow down on these breaking changes as it falls out of the spotlight and people slowly forget about it.

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[–] zwaetschgeraeuber@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

yea lucky enough i switched to firefox a year ago

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I'm wondering if Chromebooks can run Firefox? I'm guessing not. I know you can install adblockers on them. Not after mid-2024, I guess.

It really sucks that an affordable notebook computer means getting locked into an advertising system. You can get a Chromebook for under $100 and they have a very, very easy-to-use OS. They're great for poor people and elderly people.

So much for putting an adblocker on Grandma's computer now.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

you can have refurbished thinkpad for the same price and you don't have to deal with some chrome-crap.

honestly, the fact that people have to be reminded there are alternatives to chrome is the most mindblowing fact from the article.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You can run the android version or use the Linux VM. Neither are great but are workable. Unless they've changed it recently, you can also dual boot them and run Linux off an external drive.

I'd honestly say skip the Chromebook, get an older used laptop that is known to be fully supported by Linux, install a lightweight distro, and off you go if all Grandma needs is a web browser. Older used laptops are usually far better powered than a cheap Chromebook for the same price anyways. Plus it fights e-waste.

A further option is to do adblocking at the router or through the computer's own networking system or something like a Pihole. These all come with their own pros and cons.

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If all you need is a cheap laptop, there's thousands of deals on refurbished or used ones. You don't need this year's model to browse the web and send email.

Throw Ubuntu or something on it and you can go even cheaper hardware wise.

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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

I've installed the Android version of Firefox on my wife's Chromebook via the Google Play store. There's also a way to enable Linux within ChromeOS and install the more full fledged version of FF.

See: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/chromebook/

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If she'd allow you, you could always put a little pihole ($10-20) on her network (with the bare minimum lists so that it doesn't break things too often). Wouldn't change anything about her computer.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Just started running PiHole with a couple lists (default + more restrictions) and have seen zero negative effects so far. Surprising really.

[–] lostmypasswordanew@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

The pricing only really works if you factor in the advertising afterwards.

[–] kzhe@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are ways to run Linux on Chromebooks

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sure, but do you think Grandma who spent $100 on a Chromebook at Walmart is going to be able to figure out Linux even if their grandson knows how to install it? Chrome OS is the push-here-dummy of OSes. You really can't get much simpler. This is dangling a carrot in front of them so they'll be forced to look at endless advertising.

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