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Russian security forces raided gay clubs and bars across Moscow Friday night, less than 48 hours after the country’s top court banned what it called the “global LGBTQ+ movement” as an extremist organization.

Police searched venues across the Russian capital, including a nightclub, a male sauna, and a bar that hosted LGBTQ+ parties, under the pretext of a drug raid, local media reported.

Eyewitnesses told journalists that clubgoers’ documents were checked and photographed by the security services. They also said that managers had been able to warn patrons before police arrived.

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[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 208 points 2 years ago (13 children)

To everyone cracking jokes about a gay uprising, it's a lot simpler than any of that.

They just want to exterminate the gays. Like literally. They want to find that portion of the population and destroy it, because they think it's disgusting and evil.

That's it. Putin and the Russian conservatives are going after gays because it's an easy win with their conservative base, and they can claim moral superiority. Also distracts from Ukraine.

If you are gay in Russia... Its a very bad time to be gay in Russia.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

This is just standard fascism. They need a constant stream of enemies weak enough that they can't defend themselves. Whom they can paint as responsible for all a societies woes.

Fascism 101. We see Republicans employing that heavily here in the United States.

[–] lattenwald@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They need a new enemy every now and then. If the current enemy happens to be exterminated, they'll need one sooner, but they'll need a new one anyways.

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[–] pelya@lemmy.world 133 points 2 years ago (15 children)

When you are losing the war you started.

Blame gays.

When your policies fail.

Blame gays.

When your government is less popular than cancer.

Blame gays.

When you are getting mass protests.

Blame Jews. But Jews have nukes, oops. Then blame gays!

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 24 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So what I'm hearing is give The Gays™️ nukes....

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

That's one way to create a rainbow

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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 130 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Russia looking a lot like their old enemy the Nazis these days.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Russia has always been anti-LGBT+. Stalin called them abomination and Putin is just a dimestore version of that monster.

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[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ironically, Russians think they are fighting Nazis in Ukraine.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 118 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (24 children)

Well well well. I thought Russia said the nazis were in Ukraine. Huh. Funny, that.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"But Vladimir, you were never going to find any Nazis out there! The Nazis were in you all along!"

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Perhaps the true nazis were the friends we made along the way.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 76 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People want to be treated like human beings regardless of who they love? Yes, that’s a dangerously extreme view. Wanting to exterminate them all is perfectly normal, however.

[–] Verito@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Seriously? I'm being arrested for being gay?" Extremely gay.

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Ah yeah, the daily reminder that Russia has indeed become the comical evil country as it was always portrayed in Tom Clancys books, if not worse...

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[–] spiderkle@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

... and once they have rounded up and sent every minority into mandatory service for the war effort, there will be nothing left of the arts, sciences and cultural diversity, that makes a society blossom. They are undoing themselves, they don't need anybody's help.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Russia has had this problem for decades, even before the collapse of the Soviet Union this was a problem, who would want to live in communist Russia when you could live in a democracy in the west instead, and get paid for the privilege? Anyone with a brain left. After all, all the people smuggling through the Berlin wall was going in one direction.

But yeah their current actions are making it far worse.

Putin doesn't care about the future of Russia though, he only cares about his legacy. The Ukrainian invasion was supposed to be the start of the second Soviet Union. The plan was to also invade places like Poland (of course that was a terrible plan that would have almost certainly resulted in the third world war but there you go). To fall at the first hurdle like this is particularly embarrassing and dangerous because it makes him look weak, and in Russia you do not want to look weak because if you do you end up dead eventually.

If Putin manages to die of old age I'll be amazed

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[–] Cerbero@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

It’s what fascists do. Franco did it, Hitler, Pinochet, etc. anything that can be perceived as subversive must be taken care of.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 51 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Hexbear and lemmygrad be like: "Russia is just avoiding a potential color revolution."

[–] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 years ago

Actual quotes from Hexbears that I got when discussing Russia with them:

"Those reactionary shitstains [the Russian government] has little to be proud of."

"Russia is extremly Reactionary [...] thats why Russia has a Real Problem with "White Supremacy" , [and] no problems with hunting down LGBTQ+ [...]"

Now I don't exactly see anybody on Hexbear presently discussing this particular bit of news about crackdowns on LGBT+, but I'll go post about this news on Hexbear and see how the people there react. I have a feeling it's going to be consistent with my previous experiences discussing Russia with Hexbears, which is also going to be the reaction that I'd expect from an instance that skews heavily LGBT+.

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[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I dunno if anyone is interested but of you got some spare coins laying around the Canadian based charity Rainbow Refugee has been helping get out threatened LGBTQIA+ folks from multiple countries including Russia for quite a while now by arranging sponsorships and legal support and advice for LGBTQIA asylum seekers. If you know anyone looking to get out or would like to donate here's a link :

https://www.rainbowrefugee.com/

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (14 children)

My daughter is queer and if Trump wins, we will probably have to seek refuge in Canada. I have an uncle there, which will also help, but this is a good resource. Thanks.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Meanwhile "pro lgbtq" hexbears keep licking Putins boots

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's because they're all 12 years old and have no brain. When you talk to them it's quite clear they don't actually know what they're talking about. My favourite thing to do is quote events and dates at them of things that that didn't happen, and most of the time they don't pick up on it.

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[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

extremist organization

Of course, why did nobody ever think of targetting the President of Homosexual International?! Perhaps a drone strike? I bet he's hiding in a school or hospital somewhere in Ukraine.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

With everything going on with Russia they still have time for this bullshit!

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How I spent summer. Essay.

In the morning we with my mom went to beach. There we've seen jellyfish(recognized as unwanted organization, included in the list of foreign agents).

Then it rained(recognized as unwanted organization, included in the list of foreign agents). After rain came rainbow(which is element of extremist movement symbolics).

Also mom showed me memorial in city center. Memorial is included in list of foreign agents, its activity in Russia is suspended by the court's decision

[–] soshiny@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (15 children)

First they came for the >!socialists!< democrats, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a >!socialist!< democrats.

Then they came for the >!trade unionists!< journalist, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a >!trade unionist!< journalist.

Then they came for the >!Jews!< Gays, and I did not speak out— Because I was not >!a Jew!< gay.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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