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Can a "Fields guy" share some thoughts? (alien.top)

submitted 2 years ago by Straw27@alien.top to c/bears@nfl.community

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I was curious, so I just pulled up a list of NFL QBs and I wrote down how many I think are better than Fields. I've got 15 names on the list. It's possible you could argue 1 or 2 more guys could be better than him, but I wouldn't go much beyond that. Fine, let's say he's the 17th best QB in the league. Then give him the benefit of the doubt with the questionable coaches and some of the surrounding pieces. How far does he move up the list if those are improved? 12th? Not sure it's even that high and can you win the Super Bowl with the 12th best QB? Probably not. I'm basing this off what we've seen thus far. I'd like to believe he's got it in him to be top 8 or 10 but I can't make that case right now.

I love the guy and wear his shirt around town like a goof. I'm not saying I'm giving up on him, but I recognize the concerns and they're legit. I still want to see what he can do these last few games and am still holding out hope, but I'm not feeling wonderful about it. Again, that doesn't necessarily mean give up on him immediately, but they maybe need to seriously explore other options. We'll see.

Worst case scenario for me is he gets hurt and misses games down the stretch. I need him out there as much as possible to see what he does.

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[–] thatsabing0@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fields guy or not…

I have a feeling that Eberflus won’t get fired at the end of this year. I don’t want this coaching staff to draft and ruin a quarterback.

I dunno - might be getting cynical after the last few seasons.

[–] Ordinary-Ad-4800@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Where was Grossman ranked when we made the superbowl? You don't need a top 5 qb to make the superbowl

[–] mikereno2@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You pretty much do now. Look at all the QBs in the Super Bowl the last 15 years.

[–] Straw27@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The Bears lost by 2 TDs with a ridiculously awesome defense and Hester scoring a special teams TD. If the goal is to win the SB, you need a top-10 QB. Also, that was 20 years ago and the QB is even more important now.

And for the record, I'm a Fields fan and WANT him to succeed and remain our QB.

[–] workswithpipe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lots of qbs with average stats have rings, neither Aikman nor Eli were elite and both have multiple rings because they were on great teams.

[–] lilshawnyy420@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

fair but both of them were better than fields currently is... sure you can say fields has more talent or potential or whatever but are you sure he'll reach that? do you think you can unlock him more?

[–] Significant_Cycle_76@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to see what he can do to end the season and hoping for miraculous improvement. It’s expecting anything different than what he’s shown us that’s going to lead to disappointment lol

[–] Candy--Boy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is my take as a fan, and it is certainly based on enjoying bears games and overall happiness with the team.

I’ll start with performance on the field. Fields has more games and I’d like to see him succeed. If he craps the bed the rest of the year my opinion will shift. The season is not over yet though and I plan to root for Ws and look forward to watching him play well. I’ve had to give up on QBs a lot earlier in their career, and I enjoy having a guy who at least might be good.

This next part is just my fandom. I like having a guy who has raw talent. It’s gives us a chance most weeks, and it’s not gone well every week so far, but it makes me look forward to game days. I also think he’s a great guy to root for. Seems like a real leader and a really good guy. The last guy who I thought was able to decently lead a team was maybe… Kyle Orton, Jim Miller? Oh boy. Not important who I pick there, but safe to say it’s been a while. I don’t see any of the QBs in college as better leaders or as likable as JF.

College guys also don’t make me feel great. I’m not a College scout but I don’t see Caleb Williams as astounding better than what fields was in college, and personally I just wouldn’t like rooting for him as much. I don’t know literally anything about Maye, but I don’t think many people are thinking we’d draft him over Caleb. I’ve also had to watch QBs get drafted, wait 3 years to see if they develop, then give up on them. Fields I have not totally given up on. And I’d like to enjoy some games in the next few years without making excuses for our QB every week. It’s nice not having to make excuses anymore and just watch a team who wins or loses (yes, hopefully more wins in the future).

Anyway, most of this stems from the amount I enjoy watching bears games and watching the guys on the team. At the end of the day I just want to enjoy watching my team. I totally get people who want to draft a QB they think will be good because they want the team to win more in 2026 or whatever, but I can have fun with this team, with a 15th best QB instead of a 30th best QB like we’ve had for long stretches on my 31 year old life. Hopefully he’s better than 15, I expect him to keep getting better whether that’s 14 or 10. A reasonable play caller and an awesome surrounding roster can do a lot for a QB who isn’t awful. No wrong answer. Personal opinion. Let me have a good time watching for a change if I’m going to pick

[–] GoalLineStand@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think the QBs in this draft are necessarily better than fields so you’re essentially using a top 5 pick to get a rookie contract.

I’d prefer to have Fields experience and a new HC/OC than a rookie contract with a new OC/HC.

The new guy might be the next Sam Darnold so the rookie contract doesn’t help.

[–] ZapBranigan3000@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I dont see how you can say he is any where near top half in the league.

Name one thing he does consistently well in the passing game.