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I don't see the problem with adding grass to all the stadiums. I am pretty sure GB has grass and its tundra there for most of the season.

The stadiums have lights, just install some grow light into them. Just keep an eye on the groundskeepers to make sure they aren't growing a patch of marijuana on it.

Thrice damned owners not wanting to spend a little extra on special light bulbs to make the product better.

I’ve just never understood the argument that some stadiums can’t support grass. I mean Kansas City has grass. It’s 95° opening day and 4° in the playoffs in an outdoor stadium. If I remember correctly, they have a heated water system that runs under the field to keep the grass alive. It’s always just been a money thing.

NFL: “Yup, that one is turf, and the one over there is grass. See ya next year.”

And it only took 30 years after Wendell Davis.

And I will be taking a deep swipe through my ass crack to compare clean hand vs paper.

Grass is expensive. Hard to have grass game-worthy the morning after a Ke$ha concert. Player safety is a secondary concern.

And let's be honest, a stadium purely devoted to one sport that has 8, maybe 9 events per year unless maybe your team doesn't suck and then you get one or two more, is going to have trouble turning a profit.

I understand the cost-saving efforts that a responsible business owner must undergo -but it also clearly demonstrates a clear and total lack of respect or priority for player safety.

r/NFL won't like this but there is no good answer here.

Grass is not a cure all - it reduces certain types of injuries but it increases the chance of other types of injuries. And the condition of the grass also matters.

Maybe I'm also biased as a Seahawks fan, who knows the graveyard for our players is Glendale, a grass stadium.

I nominate Nick Bosa.

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"Grass good, use grass."

I think people will be disappointed by this study unless it provides definitive results. Injuries have such a wide scope a a playing surface that is better for lower leg injuries might be worse for something like head injuries.

There is no reason to ban artificial turf. We aren't playing on the OG glorified carpet anymore.

Did Ed Mangan quit? He’s the Director responsible for the ice rink at last year’s SB in Phoenix. George Toma put him on blast after the game.

If they don't issue a report entitled "The grass isn't always greener", I'm going to be so mad

Can they burn MetLife Stadium to the ground too?

What did we find? CTE

Maybe they should take a good look at betting lines vs. refs.

And then not do shit

1/4 of the starting QBs have had serious injuries so its worth the money.

I mow my lawn occasionally. I’m totally qualified and I applied.

Comp?

They should just have reddit scientists do the study.

I want Goodell Honey-I-Shrunk-the-Kids'd, thrown onto a turf-and-grass checkerboard field, and made to find his way home.

I would watch that show.

That’ll be about as exciting as watching grass grow.

Oh god the ruling is gonna stand because not enough evidence to reverse the call.

What about referees influencing second half betting lines?

Doesn't everyone already play on turf?

The bears I thought were the last ones to play on pure grass not the genetically altered hybrid that's basically turf

Usually you can tell by touching it

Big turf says no

“Yep that’s grass! Oh my god that’s turf! Check complete”

I mean, the long term data is already there so

Damn that honestly sounds like a lot of responsibility for one person

For financial reasons they'll find the same "the cheaper for the owners result is fine" they have in the past, regardless of what other external researchers show.

I played (jc) football on turf and can say I absolutely hated it. Especially during the summer during two a days where the field added like 10-15 degrees in an area where temps would reach triple digits. An I play during a time where there wasn’t all these safety protocols and water breaks were more of a reward than mandatory.

Anyway, for me it just felt like playing on concrete with a rubbery carpet on top. Nothing was worst on the football field than a fat man hitting you and then you hitting concrete with a fat man landing on top of you… I can’t imagine what it must feel like to get hit by these monsters in the NFL that weigh 280-300#’s and can run a 4.5-4.8 40-yard dash.

Anecdotal but I tore my ACL three different times on grass. Played two seasons of football on primarily turf and never had an issue. I don’t blame grass, though. I think there were many other factors.

Ehh I don’t think they are looking into turf vs grass more then they did in the past based on this job req.

If they actually cared they would listen to the players since they are the ones who play on those surfaces.

This is just someone else to tow the company line for the league and its owners.

hiring 1 person isn't taking a serious look, there should be literal teams of researchers working on this.

but its a start.

Should ban anybody from playing at the MetLife until further notice

Before they convert every team to grass they should require an installation of an under the field water powered heating system to maintain grass/field temperatures at all outdoor stadiums. This would drastically reduce injury during the winter time when the grass is normally as hard as cement, would increase the on-field temperature, and would also reduce heavy snow from being as high of an impact as it would melt. On top of this it would ensure the field conditions across the league were nearly identical regardless of it being indoor/outdoor.

Oh, the NFL will look at the bottom line, i'm sure.

Sounds like how the police have an internal investigation and rule they did nothing wrong

...and will coincidentally go with the option that let's the owners host the most events in thier stadiums with the least amount of maintenance.

Nobody seemed to bring up the turf vs grass argument when players were suffering season injuries on grass fields this year.

Turf field = more opportunities for non NFL related events. That's pretty much what it boils down too