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I tried getting season tickets for a local baseball team but the ordering system was quite literally designed for old people and was driving me insane:

there's no actual order page online, just this 'contact us for info!' button where you have to write them a bespoke little email - like, to a person, not just a form to fill out - and I did that and the dude ///called me//// and didn't answer when I tried to call back


why for the love of God take this to the phone?? I emailed them!!! I didn't even want to email them, i wanted to fill out a webpage and put my credit card in! and they throw up all these smarmy sAlEsMaN roadblocks, like jesus man

like is this seriously meant to be like 'oh that's such good customer service' to someone?

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Guessing they just don’t have the means or technical no how to setup an online ordering system, doubt it’s anything malicious.

Also email is not secured so I wouldn’t want to send credit card info or anything important through that means of communication, hence the call.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You’re goddamn right.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

phone calls aren't more secure

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The likelihood of a phone call being intercepted is vastly less likely than data transmitted over email. Also what do you even know about telephone technology you damn raccoon.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I email you and you call me instead of emailing back I'm screening your call. Just send an email back, I would have called you if it needed to be a phone call.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Some things just lead to a bunch of questions that are annoyingly slow to sort out via email. Or the sender is clearly starting with a wrong assumption that will make any text communication come across the wrong way and a phone call could sort that out quickly.

Do you respond well to an email reply that asks to do a call instead?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Asking for a call to clarify would be a much better approach. I should preface that I am in IT. My workplace had no help tickets or IT help voip lines when I got here. I worked very hard to be able to take these calls all day. So I have less time for phone calls than the average office employee. I'm like Help Desk 1-3 and SME for a few programs at my workplace.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Making an appointment for a call is the way I would do it. Otherwise I'll just assume it's spam because most calls are.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is such a boomer comment. Literally nothing is better as a phone call. Having to deal with shitty connections, accents, not being able to think for a moment to prepare a reply, not being able to reference anything, not being able to proof read your response. It's absurd.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess I just work with more complicated topics.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's why the most complicated topics, like astrophysics, are always described orally, rather than writing written reports

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

You know they discuss things orally at conferences and while reviewing those written descriptions right?

Right?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

When I signed up for season tickets for the raiders, I had to talk to some goober salesman on a "virtual tour" over zoom or w/e. I tried like hell to just have him send me a price sheet, and a map so I could pick my seats. I even worked for the team in the past and contacted my old boss to tell him this was super inconvenient. He insisted that that's the only way to do it, and they don't share price sheets with customers. It's boomer sales tactics, and good luck telling them that most people don't want to talk to a guy for a simple transaction.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Personally, if I send an email to someone and they call me, that makes me suspicious of what theyre going to say. Why don't they want to send an email back? What do they not want a paper trail of?

If someone (especially management) at my job asks me to do something, I always tell them to send me an email (via company email) telling me what they want specifically. This way, in case anyone in the future has a problem, I can reference the email and who sent it to me.I also will always respond when I complete the task so that I can reference how long the task took me to complete. As you can imagine this means I do nearly no meaningless or legally questionable tasks.

Naturally, I have done this in my personal life as well. Any conversation I feel is very important, I send a text or even an email. I once had someone respond by phone only, and this person was verbally abusive. I politely told them that any further correspondence must be done by text or email. Sadly, they never apologized, and have never spoken to me since.

So is it rude? I think it depends on the context and the person.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

ok so I was going to say no but really the issue here is a bussiness should be consistant in communication and have a decent amount of communication options. So the person should have emailed you to schedule a time to call or give you his number to call.

[–] SnuggleSnail@ani.social 13 points 2 years ago

If you write someone an email and include your phone number then it is completely okay for them to call you back.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

No, but the Contact Us information should have been clearer. Like "No online ticket orders. To order tickets, call us at 111-111-1111"

I don't answer my phone so calling me would not work, and yes I would find it annoying.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago

To an office, no.

To an individual, yes. Don't call me.

[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My favorite is when some dumb ass company asks me to fax something. Like bitch...I haven't had a land line in over 20 years, much less a fax machine. There is this new thing called email, perhaps you've heard of it?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 4 points 2 years ago

I don't trust any company that still relies on easily-tapped fax lines whenevery doctor or tax office I've used has had a secure online portal for uploading documents for years.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You can fax stuff online.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

This is because people believe that faxes are "unhackable" because it's just scanning a piece of paper and transmitting it to another machine that prints it out. They never think that you can photoshop a thing and then print it out and then fax it.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Disrespectful, no. Annoying af on a personal level, yes. If I email, it's because I have time for that not your stupid rambling stories, I want a paper trail, and I don't want to deal with people in conversation. I blatantly do not answer calls at work when I am emailing someone and if they ask if they can call, I tell them no and to please use email.

I can understand them calling in your case. I wouldn't like it, but sometimes it's just faster to talk things out. So long as you don't get a rambler.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In MLB, Season tickets holders are personally handled by an agent from the team's ticket office. Some MiLB clubs might do the same.

It's supposed to make the experience feel more premium.

Just tell him you'd prefer a more "carvana-like" experience.

It's definitely old-fashioned, but baseball is notoriously slow to change.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 years ago

It depends. For some groups of people, it isn't considered rude to switch methods of contacting people if one person sees a need for it; this is especially prevalent with older people.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Dunno but if you're in a hurry I don't think it matters