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[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 99 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This person assumes only bones are visible in fossils. When in reality even things without bones can end up fossilized.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

It happens, but it's incredibly rare. There's a wikipedia article of all known examples of soft tissue dinosaur fossils and it's not a long one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dinosaur_specimens_with_preserved_soft_tissue

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

While I agree with this meme, I would still like to present the following counterargument:

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What year was this computer mouse built?!

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

It sometimes slides off the table on its own, got kinda annoying after a couple falls

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago

It's the original one-button mouse, built for the Apple Elise in 1810.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Imagine if these things were actually chubby lil guys with lots of soft fatty parts and cartilage but this is just what's left of them

[–] prayer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're looking at a photo of a horseshoe crab. Still very much alive and complete.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but like, what if their ancestors were different and they just evolved it all away?

[–] Nahodyashka@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

They're arthropods, so in terms of the appearance in the fossil record, it's pretty much what they are completely. Idk how far you wanna go in terms of evolutionary ancestry, but they've conserved most of their featured for a quite a long time: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/feart.2020.00098/full

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

I wanted to say, it would look like a Pokémon, but then I remembered that these things already are a Pokémon...

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

I'm no osteologist/paleontologist but the wing thingies on the sides of those tail bones suggest to me that it had a strong tail.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The only way we'll 100% know what dinosaurs looked like, is if we start cloning some of em.

Everything else is just best educated guess.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that the oxygen concentration was much higher back then to a point where dinosaurs would not be viable in today’s atmosphere. They would have to stay in air tight enclosures. In a way that makes me feel safer about bringing them back. OH NO THE RAPTORS ESCAPED…. aaaand they suffocated. They’re dead now.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dinosaurs should still be fine. The oxygen concentration really applied to animals with passive breathing systems like insects. Insects don’t actually breathe, they sort of just let the air directly oxygenate their blood. They can’t regulate breathing faster when they need more oxygen.

Dinosaurs have forced breathing through lungs. The blue whale is the largest animal to have ever lived including even the most massive dinosaurs, and blue whales still breathe air.

There’s not much difference between a velociraptor and a modern bird of prey either, other than the teeth.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They do need extra oxygen to do anything, though. They might be able to walk around, but they'll tire quickly if they have to do any exertion.

Whales don't have to run on land, and the biggest ones have no predators besides humans.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No that’s absolutely false too. Atmospheric oxygen was lower during the Jurassic and Cretaceous than it is today.

It peaked during the Carboniferous period, and then started declining in the Triassic and bottomed out right around the Triassic-Jurassic extinction event 200MYA, then rapidly increased again. Dinosaurs became the dominant terrestrial species after this, and all of the huge dinosaurs lived during the Jurassic and Cretaceous.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131118081043.htm

Studies of air bubbles trapped in amber revealed atmospheric oxygen levels of 10-15% during the time the largest dinosaurs existed. We have 21% today.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Great, so they'd hyperventilate and keep getting dizzy. A bunch of hyper oxygenated, dizzy velociraptors. What could go wrong.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Clever girl

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I saw a documentary where they did that. Didn't work out very well for Newman 🤷

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Owner spared every expense despite what he said to the contrary. So, just like most business owners IRL.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Absolutely.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] jayemar@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Dang, I've apparently never seen a bison skeleton

[–] tuxtey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Clearly, this is the t-rex's true form.

[–] rasensprenger@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Did you draw this? It's super cute!

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Can't take any credit, it was the product of Bing ai image generator. I just gave it some text to chew on and it spit out this beaut.

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually, I just realized that it's drawn in a style that reminds me of Scott Johnson's (of Frogpants Studio and all his podcasts) art work. You might like some of his stuff.

[–] rasensprenger@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you, I'll check it out

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago