100 - >150 -> 148
So much win
Another chart from the same article which he didn't show
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100 - >150 -> 148
So much win
Another chart from the same article which he didn't show
Surely wages also increased by 30-40%, right?
Getting hit by a car, but it stopped accelerating at 60 kph
rent goes up $1000
rent goes down $500
omg rent is so cheap now!!!
It's not even that it went back down, it just stopped rising. Rent isn't any cheaper that it was last year
Mine didn't stop rising
i had some items in my amazon cart. they've just been sitting there for weeks now because i'm avoiding buying from amazon for awhile. $16 total.
black friday came and the original $16 price tag is now a BLACK FRIDAY DEAL -24% at $16 ONLY FOR PRIME MEMBERS!
i ignored it. on monday the original $16 then turned into a CYBER MONDAY DEAL -24% at $16.
legit just checked. all the "deals" are now over. it's still $16...
“Just get a raise to catch up, if you can’t then that’s your own problem.”
But don't everyone do it at once, or we'll have inflation again and I'll have to raise your rent.
It's even worse, it's more like rent went down $50 in your example
A lot of coverage of inflation (and also GDP growth) intentionally muddles & conflates change in rate of change (second derivative) vs. change in value (first derivative) vs. actual value (zeroeth/no derivative, actual thing being measured). Pundits basically pick one of these three values at random to support whatever position they're hawking and nobody bothers to think about what the difference is.
Lost count of how many people I've seen say something like "if inflation is down now why is everything still so expensive?"
This type of guy fascinates the hell out of me, getting owned so hard all the time by so many people, constantly being proven stupid and wrong, but he lacks the self-awareness to recognize how embarrassing it all is for him.
i kind of wish i had that capacity, it must be nice to live shamelessly
Yeah, I'm sure he's happier than I am despite being wrong all the time
This is so fucking idiotic.
I hate hearing about rent 'deflation' from these econ bros. I've never experienced my rent or know anyone whose rent was reduced, except by court order, but almost everyone's rent increases per year like clockwork. Maybe the only way to get a cheaper rent is to move at the right time but then you have to pay the cost of moving, which is expensive, not to mention time and energy consuming. But you can't afford to move if you're paying exorbitant rents every month either, and moving to a place that is $500 cheaper is eventually not going to last because of rent increases and depending on how far and how much you have to move then you may have just burned a lot of the long-term potential savings upfront. These hot takes over some dumb graph is useless or unrealistic to most people, since it probably includes the lowest rents in the most economically abandoned parts of a large country. Most people have to face an inordinate monthly rent bill even in moderate cities, not to mention the largest metropolises like New York and Los Angeles, no one gives a shit about the national statistic when their local and immediate condition is costing half or more of their monthly income and is only getting worse. It's like that guy claiming inflation was defeated if you don't consider all the necessary costs people have to pay, like housing or food, fuck you.
These apologists should be among the first in the gulags.
my rent went down by $50 for the first time in my entire life this year and the way management reacts whenever they hear about this fact I'm 99% sure it was a computer glitch. probably will jack up our rent more to fuck us over next year.
I'm honestly happy for you, and I believe you, but you're an extremely rare anomaly which I've never heard of actually happening but I guess it does happen then. Kind of like ancaps with Milei.
Out of curiosity, do you live in a major city or do you have rent control? I'm guessing from what you said about your management that they didn't give you an explanation as to why it was reduced, it could have likely been a glitch since some companies use algorithms to set their rents. I hope they don't raise your rent next year but I'd be very interested to hear a follow-up.
yeah I live in a non-rent-controlled apartment building, I meant building management. what I think happened is the building was bought a few months ago by some random private equity group in the northeast, and coincidentally our rent renewed during the handover when all the websites and portals and whatever were in flux. I think their valuation models for our rent probably didn't have access to our current rent rates or something so we ended up being assigned a rent decrease. From asking around we are literally the only people in our building this happened to and building management was shocked when they found out.
this is the first time i've ever heard of anyone ever having their rent go down. the gods have smiled upon you.
use the 50$ to burn your landlords house down.
If this was happening in China, Westoid China Watchers would be publishing doom and gloom articles about how the collapsing property sector is going to cause the Chinese economy to go into a death spiral.
I know this because that's exactly what's happening right now.
Even funnier when you consider that housing and rent is about 15-20% of US GDP, including "virtual rent", which is imaginary rent which is counted in GDP. Literally imaginary in that it measures home owners living in their own houses paying rent to themselves.
Imputed Rent
No one I have told about this had ever even heard of the concept.
USA has higher GDP than China... If we measure in nominal US dollars and pretend that every homeowner in the US pays themselves rent.
I wonder how much China's GDP would increase if you counted all the homeowners (which is like 80% of the population) as paying fictional rent to themselves.
Here's a graph for ya
turns graph upside down
see? idiot
tis i who is the idiot
"Well sure rent increased by 20% for a year there but now it's dropping by 2%! That balances it out!"
Also goddamn wish I got an 18% raise every year.
Smartest "economics" liberals don't understand that rates turn into prices by accumulating them over time lol.
That "one-time" spike, cumulatively, looks like a big permanent rent increase.
lol, I googled to see how bad it is in California - I pay 70%, and have for years - and I found a "study" by Forbes that claims California is the second-highest state at . . . 28.47%. How is that possible? Oh, here it is - they calculate it based on the average California annual income instead of the median renter income.
https://ktla.com/news/california/californians-spend-second-highest-percent-in-rent-study-says/
Here's a better one that shows that 28.8% of Californians are "severely cost-burdened" and pay more than 50% of their income on rent:
The rate of increase is falling! Why aren't you people happy? That massive rent increase was just a one time thing (until your lease is up for renewal)
For a second, i thought the graph was in the thumbnail.
An increase of 18% followed by a decrease of 2%. Hmm, yeppers. That sure balances out
the psychopathic tankies who feel the need to turn every debate over the economy into a blizzard of abuse think they're winning, because they're making more death threats, but what they're actually doing is demonstrating why views on the economy have become so distorted
logiclords always seem to think that you can't be correct unless you're nice.
No offense, but it’s been social media and peer information bubbles from the very start, some of us identified the problem immediately. “Mortgages and interest rates,” by contrast, are being adopted as an explanation because it’s the last alternative even remaining
Maybe you're just in a cope bubble of people who are well off and can abstract economic struggle into a 2016-esque theory of your social media grievances. You've been working at a university think-tank for 10 years. Get real.
When your data doesn't confirm the point you want to make, just add more derivatives
Smuggest liberal's understanding of the fundamental theorem of calculus
Communists, cursed by the ability to do math.
the rapid spike in rents was a one-time thing
idiots 20% increase is countered by 5% decrease it’s simple math
literally every word of this is false.
That's cool. I'm not voting for Joe Biden but thank you for the graph.
I keep getting this guys posts on twitter and it's genuinely impressive to be so consistently wrong. Every time I hear about a new thing and see his position I just go for whatever is opposed to that, 100% track record so far
So, this guy is saying my rent is lower now?
gonna tell my landlord they have to charge me less because just look at this graph
"Citizen remain calm, rents are leveling off at astronomically out of reach."
I don’t think people realize how incredibly lucky Biden has been.
The Biden administration’s initial strategy was to raise the interest rates to induce unemployment to curb inflation (based on neoclassical thinking, which everyone here already knows is wrong).
However, contrary to what they had anticipated, the interest rate hikes have caused the interest payment from US treasury to pump out a gigantic ~$1.2-1.5 trillion dollars this year! The money mostly went to the rich people, but the trickle down of the crumbs have been enough to keep the economy staying afloat. This meant unemployment were kept low and consumers continued to spend. The inflation was mostly caused by supply chain issues, so it was already transitory in nature regardless of whether there was Fed rate hikes or not.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a 12-month lag when it comes to housing price data, and new leases have their rents going down (as shown in the quoted tweet here), which means that high rent is still being counted in the CPI print and this will come down over the next few months.
But the inflation is practically over. Biden survived. The rich people have won. The poor people have lost the most. In fact, African Americans have seen unemployment increased, while white families (especially in the top 10%) saw their share of wealth increased. The economy didn’t crash, and all the right wing economists who predicted a recession have got it all wrong (which is what I have been saying throughout this year - no recession in the US!).