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[–] WorthWafer1365@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

First stroud and now josh Allen. We’re getting way too comfortable with calling good QB play an MVP season.

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[–] owlwise13@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Allen as an MVP is delusional at best. He just can't win in the clutch and his floor then other QB's his swings from MVP level play to why his he out there is too extreme. I think a lot of it is coaching. Hurts or Prudy should be MVP.

[–] ChargeWithThunder@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bro he’s given his team the lead in almost every loss and the defense crumbles on the last drive of the game to lose them the game are you dumb?? 3 of their last 4 losses has seen the game ending with the opponent scoring on the last drive of the game. And the jags loss ended on a diggs fumble. The jets loss at the beginning of the season sure you can put the blame on Allen and that’s fine. The bengals loss sure you can give him some blame for that too. But to say “he just can’t win in the clutch” when 3 of their last 4 losses have came when the defense gives up clutch tds or drives on the last possession is crazy. If the defense gets stops in these games he’d be probably listed as the most clutch player in the league rn

[–] lifeofwiley@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

McDermott is half a notch better than Staley.

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[–] HandsomeJaxx@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stop acting like he’s not part of the isssue

[–] ChargeWithThunder@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stop acting like he’s more of the issue. Hurts has 3 less turnovers (also in 1 less game), but has 4 more wins. Turns out winning is a team stat. The offense has put the team up within the last couple minutes of multiple games and the defense flares up and gives up game winning drives.

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[–] IceKareemy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is like me saying Jalen for MVP do I want it for him? God yes, is he clutch? Hell ya, does he have a bunch of fumbles and ints? Also Yes

[–] halfdecenttakes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Extinguish the Sun. Delete weather entirely.

It's the only way Buffalo will ever get a fair shake at things.

[–] Unimmortal47@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

13 ints is an MVP season now?

[–] VatnikLobotomy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

TIL Jay Cutler could have won an MVP

[–] Joshsnation1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Josh Allen is a god damn football player I enjoy watching and these mothafuckin haters need to put down the ice cold haterade

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[–] alqv@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Allen is trash

[–] silentkiller082@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

QBs with 30+ TDs in 2023: Josh Allen. That's it. If we were 10-1 he would be the run away favorite for MVP. We have a coach that plays to not lose instead of to win. He has about the same amount of turnovers per game as his competition yet has scored way more than everyone else. This is one of the most frustrating things I ever have had to watch in our coach wasting a prime year of the second best QB in the league.

[–] macaroni_3000@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Man's on track to throw like 18 interceptions and probably 6-7 fumbles on top of that. Not an MVP season unless he goes apeshit and throws 60 touchdowns

[–] lattjeful@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bills wasting Josh Allen with their shitty prevent defense and cowardly coaching decisions? In other news, the sky is blue.

[–] salmon1a@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Allen has little Favre in him (INTs) but he is amazing to watch. Still not sure whose fault it was on that potential TD to win it.

[–] DeepSeaWeedSmoker@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Between Allen, Herbert, and Lawrence, and Burrow, it seems like our next generation of great QB’s are getting kind of screwed by their orgs. Granted Jax is finally performing but definitely feels like a lot of waste going around.

[–] TrevorsBlondeLocks16@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Theyre just wasting Josh Allen at this point

[–] Schreck2@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

5 losses this season from 4th quarter comebacks under 2 minutes.

The losses on the defensive side of the ball this season has been rough, but that is just completely inexcusable.

[–] rocky2894@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dudes got hailee on the brain this season don’t blame him, if you don’t make the playoffs you can vacation together longer

[–] T-P-T-W-P@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This will very likely be the 4th year in a row where Allen throws for 4200+ and 35TD+ while adding 6-12TD’s on the ground. Go over to the Bills sub and half of them have a massive silver spoon in their mouth complaining about Josh with the turnovers and “inconsistency”. He’s probably one of the very select few most physically talent players in the league regardless of position, and if you can’t figure out a way to win with that and the above production, you probably have to look at the staff. McDeez and co. probably haven’t been “bad” relative to the league but they clearly aren’t a good fit to maximize Josh into winning. I would hire Ben Johnson Bobby Slowik or Bienemy and draft OL, maybe sign a ring chasing Mike Evans.

But the whole JA is part of the problem chatter that gets thrown around is simply wild to me watching the games. The offense devolves into having him be Superman and that’s where the turnovers have come in, Joe Brady improved everything it seems but he needs a solidified system that creates easy looks with the backyard Clark Kent plays being a strong back pocket option. A few plays go the other way for the Bills and Josh is an easy MVP front runner even with the int count.

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[–] DallasT1003@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Allen is NOT having a mvp season

[–] degen4Iyf@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Continues to be a league leader … in turnovers

[–] Spagoodler@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Defending a guy with 17 turnovers is WILD

[–] plantglutton@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jesus. The only thing I've learned from reading the comments is that Dolphins fans are super triggered every time they read his name.

[–] spelltype@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What the hell hahaha he’s having a good season and he can pull off super human throws, but he’s so far from MVP

[–] VeterinarianFit1309@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sorry if this comes off the wrong way, but if you’re not finding ways to win games, then you’re not playing MVP caliber football. How can you be the most valuable player in the league, if you’re not winning? I get that it’s a statistical thing, but there needs to be more consideration in whether you are doing enough to win.

In other words, Josh Allen should be losing the MVP race because of the performance of those around him.

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[–] siberiansneaks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Uh. Dude has been a turnover factory. If he wasn’t so reckless they may still be in the hunt.

[–] Mumakata@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And here’s why that’s ok!

[–] Dear_Internet8728@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

he has his worst games against bad teams

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