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PHOENIX (AP) -- The 2024 presidential election is drawing an unusually robust field of independent, third party and long shot candidates hoping to capitalize on Americans' ambivalence and frustration over a likely rematch between Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump.

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[–] shitwolves@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 years ago

weary means tired, dumbass

[–] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't vote for a third party. That's just voting for Trump with extra steps.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How about this… don’t take a guy who quietly supports genocide, whose been part of politics longer than I’ve been alive- in fact he’s been a senator for more than twice as long as I’ve been a voter- and make him the canidate.

Because, under your argument, that’s just giving voted to trump!!!

“Vote blue no matter who” is an argument that presupposes a good canidate is in office. Biden is not a good candidate; and the dems need to find somebody else to run him.

We saw the same problem with Hilary. Hilary was not a good canidate and in no way was actually capable of winning. You made the same arguments then as now.

You know Biden is going to lose votes. Why the fuck are you unwilling to consider someone else?

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hopefully enough others will vote anyway out of a sense of duty, but non-enthusiastic energy for a candidate will keep some people from going out to vote at all. That is actually a third default choice that takes no energy to do.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. If you told me to swim through a pit of jellyfish to keep Trump away from the White House, I would swim through the fucking jellyfish.

Others may not, and Biden may lose without them.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, just expect the same thing that worked for you to work for everyone.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what the fuck else are we supposed to say to convince them?

Repeat yourself again. I'm sure that'll work.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Biden is a good candidate. He hasn't been impeached yet, unlike his competitor during this same time in his term; he hasn't started a coup on his own country, and the fact that he's experienced at the job he's applying to is actually a good thing (displayed by the passing of both the CHIPs act and the IRA despite not having complete control of congress). Hilary was actually a significantly better candidate than Trump(very obvious in hindsight for many), but Trump had the advantage of Russian support and the fact that it was uncertain how he would act as president. Once voters found out how Trump is as a president, they turned away from him in droves as evidenced by the fact that he's the first president to lose reelection in 20 years, and Republicans have lost every election since Trump was voted in.

Biden ain't perfect, but man he's a huge upgrade compared to Trump.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah he's better than a literal facist who is currently making Nazi speeches and has promised to jail all his political opponents. What an incredibly high bar for Biden to stumble over!

Having your party position be "Bite your tongue and vote for our shit candidate to prevent the end of democracy" is not a winning position. It's a terrible strategy guaranteed to lead to less voter turnout.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
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