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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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Some of that bazinga's most misanthropic and bootlicky takes have already been deleted by mods so I can't directly quote them, but what was deleted were some logical rational whoppers such as "all of you are under an idealistic delusion that human beings will always outcompete machines in work tasks if they believe strongly enough." berdly-smug

That ship sailed at least as far back as the myth of Paul Bunyan. Personally, the moment I added wheels to my travel bag, those wheels made me obsolete as a travel bag carrier. Fucking no one took that position but that bazinga didn't want to confront positions that were actually taken and kept doing victory laps while congratulating themself. jagoff

The most persistent take remaining was not even far off from my slight exaggeration of the conclusions drawn by that bazinga in the title of this thread: they claimed that there is no difference between LLMs and you, right now, sitting here reading this text. Persisting with that take with sea lioning tactics demanding that everyone else prove otherwise (so much for extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence) and dodging every refutation of it already in that thread, the implication of their take is that every time AI Dungeon tells you "Count Grey" might have shown up, uninvited, to your Gundam interactive fanfic, smirking and chuckling before violently murdering everyone in the room with "squelch" sounds, that isn't just a bad data set fed to it by edgelords: that was from a nascent potentially-sapient ghost in the machine that may soon be at least as intelligent as you. hypersus

Considering I'm shipping out in a few days and I really don't like posting from a phone so I'm likely to be away from here for an indefinite time after that, it almost feels like supernatural timing to have this sort of ultimate bazinga show up now. sweat

Yes I posted a lot in that particular thread about Redditors being really superstitious about the tech magic of LLMs, but then look who approached me.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know you could probably have a lot less stress in your life if you don't go around finding these IRL soyjaks to dunk on. Think of your cardiovascular health

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know you could probably have a lot less stress in your life if you don't go around finding these IRL soyjaks to dunk on. Think of your cardiovascular health

I actually am heading mostly off-grid in a few days for an indefinite time to fulfill some lifelong dreams. I'm no longer going to be anywhere near Silicon Valley so I won't have to see or hear or argue with bazingas (I hope) offline anymore either.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, have fun writing your manifesto out in the woods

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Does writing my next book out in the woods count? monkey-typewriter

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

The Bazinga Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for humanity

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If your book's not a thinly veiled manifesto why even write it

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If your book's not a thinly veiled manifesto why even write it

Looks at previous novel trilogy side-eye-1 side-eye-2

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Dox yourself on the way out and drop those titles, I've just about caught up with Unjust Depths

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sending a personal message now.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago
[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

have fun.

maybe not too much fun a-guy

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what kind of book? fiction?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Contemporary story with some slight sci-fi elements. It's an inversion of sorts of the usual "what if the lights go out" collapse story but with leftist characteristics and a less misanthropic perspective than the usual "grizzled dudebro with a gun avenges fridged wife and protects daughter figure" slop. Don't want to give too much away until it's near release (and I've settled on its title).

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

/r/botsrights

[–] RION@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who up makin they claims non-falsifiable rn

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can't objectively prove that AI Dungeon isn't conscious, then you are not conscious either, you meat computer. smuglord

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Hard" problem of consciousness? Actually, if you just look up consciousness on Wikipedia like I did, you'll find it's rather easy.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a lot of complex problems that techbros believe that can solve by dismissing or ignoring them while trying to emulate whatever they saw on a movie recently.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just put it on the blockchain bro

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Put it on the cloud! Make a virtual server! galaxy-brain

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno what's going on in this thread but I hope you come back and we'll miss you

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I dunno what's going on in this thread but I hope you come back and we'll miss you

I doubt everyone will, but I will miss a lot of you in return, and even if it's damn inconvenient to log in here on a phone, when things are settled and more routine where I'm going and with what I'll be doing, when I got fatherhood figured out a bit better, and when my next book is ready to be released, I think I'll return here for that, even if it's a mild opsec risk. Part of why I wanted to go radio silent was because of fedposting and the temptation of feeling safer with a fresh start after the move.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's all pretty reasonable stuff. Take care of yourself comrade that's the most important thing

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Thank you. I'm doing this to fulfill lifelong dreams after all. Moving always sucks, as is changing livelihoods at least in the short term, but I would regret it for the rest of my life if I didn't take this chance.

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TBH I feel like if a fedposting is spend time on me, they're not spending time on someone important lol.

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

the tankiest thing you can do in life is aggro feds.

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Count Grey

Haven't seen him in ages, the most recent versions of AI Dungeon are a lot more boring than the first few.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I'm glad; was some creepy weird shit back in the day.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Creating a fundamentalist techno religion based around the worship of Microsoft's Clippy

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

The "you can't prove that the treat printer isn't conscious" gambit could easily be applied to an automated voice recognition system on a phone. Or fucking anything that responds to user input and provides some probabilty and dataset-driven response. Why stop there? Why not say we can't disprove that Clippy is conscious/sentient/sapient? That's the magic of extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence where the burden of proof is sophistically pushed on the doubters! morshupls