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I didn't know how much I missed it.
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I just wanted to say these comments are off the chain. This is how the internet used to be- just people chatting, making jokes and telling stories.
I didn't know how much I missed it.
Welcome to the Internet without corporate rot
I'm enjoying these brief moments of Lemmy before it becomes mainstream. Who knows maybe it never will which is kinda bad but also kinda good.
Too late
This is called the nasal cycle.
Use Flonase to help (need daily use for >= 4 weeks) If this doesn't help enough, you should see an ENT.
Fun fact: the turbinates in the nose (which are responsible for the nasal cycle) have erectile tissue in them.
Source: your friendly neighborhood Otolaryngologist
Hi, I'd like to subscribe to Daily Otolaryngologist Facts.
Also fun fact: don't follow medical advice given by strangers on the Internet that claim they are an expert
You can never verify that claim
So, you are saying I should follow medical advice by strangers in the Internet?
True; I, and I'm sure most other physicians would not provide identifiable data in a public forum. If you are having issues with nasal obstruction, alternating or otherwise., best advice is to follow up with your pcm for treatment, possible referral.
I had a doctor basically remove everything from my nose that could be removed including a bunch of the turbinates. It's great I can actually breathe through it now.
Yeah, inferior turbinate reduction is the next small step for this. Often if it's just alternating nasal obstruction that's good enough. Oftentimes there's another component of nasal valve collapse or septal deviation. Personally, in my population, I end up doing septorhinoplasty (nose job) way more often than other smaller nasal surgery.
You don't want them to actually remove the turbinates, however. We generally just shrink them down -- removing them makes the nasal air less turbulent, and difficult to sense airflow. TL;DR it make look like you can drive a semi truck through the nose, but people will feel like they cannot breathe at all. People have killed themselves over this.
I had this recommended for me, but the risk of empty nose syndrome scared the shit out of me.
How does that not get your nose tissue addicted to nasal sprays?
This applies to nasal decongestants (NOT nasal steroids). Nasal decongestants (such as oxymetazoline AKA afrin, or phenylephrine based medications) are vasoconstrictors. They work very well and work very quickly as the vasoconstriction (constricting the blood vessels) which shrinks the inferior turbinates (and any other edematous tissue).
The body responds to chronic vasoconstriction by making more blood vessels. When the nasal tissues have more blood vessels (and I presume are more dense with vessels) it's harder for the decongestant to work. This is called rebound congestion
conversely, the patients in this scenario will feel they need to use more decongestant since it previously worked so well, but it no longer does. This cycle can be challenging to treat.
For this reason most ENTs, including myself, typically recommend against afrin use for more than 3 consecutive days. I've seen who go as long as five, but I'm cautious and would not recommend more than 3 days.
It's a bit funny, because if you come into my clinic and get an endosocpic exam of the nose and/or throat (i.e. probably around 50%, often more, of my patients on any given day), I will spray afrin and lidocaine into the nose before my examination. The other main thing I use it for is nosebleeds. It's okay to use it for 3 days during an acute exacerbation of sinusitis, but I don't really think it's necessary.
Edit: I forgot to mention nasal steroids. As I said, the above response doesn't apply to them. We don't include nasal steroids in this because they have a very slow effect and don't have the effect of rebound congestion. With few exceptions doing 2 sprays each nostril daily for a very long is fine for almost everybody, and usually helpful. When I prescribe them I recommend patients use them for at least 4 weeks. Once in awhile there are patient that I would be more cautious with prescribing nasal steroids, such as those with a septal perforation, or frequent nose bleeds. Usually it's a non issue. Tip: when spraying them don't spray straight back -- use your opposite hand and spray towards the eye (i.e. spray with right hand into left nostril, aiming towards left eye).
If you hold your breath to the point you can't anymore your body will automatically clear your nostrils in an attempt to help you not suffocate to death
I taught this trick to my then 4 year old and he legit almost passed out then came back from the edge with a "mommy I can breef!"
I don't think this is how it works...
It is! It's to prevent situations where your mouth is obstructed and your nose is clogged from killing you. Give it a try
But it is!
Used to always have clogged nostrils when going to bed.
But when I slept at hotels I never had a clogged nose.
Turns out I was just allergic to dust mites.
Bought anti-dustmite sheets / spray and boom, no longer had clogged nostrils in bed.
This is worth a shot. I'll try it
I recommend getting both the anti-dustmite sheets and pillow covers as well as the spray!
A combination of all 3 legit stopped giving me a clogged nose at night immediately.
Edit:
Initial steps I put in the other comment:
My initial steps I took were:
taking bed sheets and pillow covers to the washing machine
applying anti-dustmite cover to mattress
applying anti-dustmite cover to pillows
putting bed sheets and pillow covers over the anti-dustmite covers
spraying the anti-dustmite spray over and letting dry
Hello new paranoia! What can be done with my existing things to get rid of the mites???
Dust and vacuum, often. And with a bagged HEPA sealed vacuum. Vacuum wars YouTube channel does good recommendations at all price points.
Fuck this post made me remember I was on automatic breathing and switched to manual, fuck
Your comment did that to me.
There's a trick I learned for clearing a stuffy nose.
Place the tip of your tongue on the roof of your mouth. Then, place a finger on the bridge of your nose.
In very small motions, alternate between pushing up on the roof of your mouth, and then releasing that and pushing on the bridge of the nose. Use a gentle teeter-totter to rock the pallette. Repeat ten or so times and, within a few seconds, your nose will be open.
what do you mean with bridge of the nose? the boney part?
Right below the divide between nose and face, so about 3mm or so. In fact, if you press up on the roof of your mouth you'll feel the spot on your nose very slightly rise up.
Essentially you're rocking the soft palette up and down which flexes the sinuses and opens them up.
Meanwhile, both my nostrils are so dry they've got tumbleweeds blowing around in them.
If you ever get to breathe through both at once: it hurts from the dryness.
This is me when I sleep or lie down but the nostril wall never comes down 😭
This is me when I sleep or lie down but the nostril wall never comes down 😭
Nostrils, when the walls fell.
No joke my doctor told me I should whash my sinis everyday before bed and told me to buy a specific bottle that makes it easier and safer, I did and OMG, life changing!! Just don't wash your sinus with regular water please!
Never use tap water it has combined chlorine it (at least where I live it does)
Probably better if you just use Johnny Walker Blue Label
Edit : source of how I know the tap water has combined chlorine.. My brother has the testing equipment because he takes care of a swimming pool.
Masturbation will clear you up for a bit.
Interestingly this may work, but I'm not sure anyone has studied it (perhaps I will do a lit search).
There's erectile tissue in the inferior turbinates that is responsible for the nasal cycle.. maybe after an emission it's more flaccid?
Sadly I do not suffer from inferior turbinate hypertroohy/ alternating nasal obstruction to test this on myself.
Edit: This has been studied.... I now have one more option in the "medical management" toolbox
lol yeah, I wasn't shitposting. I read it somewhere a while ago.
It's a normal human phenomenon.
Take it a step further, Advanced yoga practitioners use "alternate nostril breaths" to consciously alter/improve physical & mental state.
You gotta snort some water up that nose and blow hard. sweet relieve
Won't do much for the natural blocking. Notably is that this blocking is NOT caused by clogging. It's your nose deliberating shutting one hole slightly.
The reason this is because some smells take more exposure to detect while others can be detected immediately. The nose physically constricts airflow to accomplish this uneven speed on both sides.
My nostril generally gets blocked on the side closest to the person who's spreading all the germs.
But I find you can sort it out if you tilt your head back slightly and point your nose up, then tilt to the side away from the blocked nostril. Once the blood starts to even out you can level out your head with both nostrils fairly clear.
Mine gets like this depending on the amount of dairy I consume. It's can be pretty clear most of the timesbut mmmmhmmm ice cream and cheese...
I would never claim to know what your body does but FYI there is a popular misconception that diary promotes snot. The idea is based on the magical principle that like attracts like, there's no evidence for it.