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Most people seem to be giving their ranks on MVP voting citing only QBs. It’s hard to imagine that just a title over 10 years ago Brees’ 46 TDs wasn’t enough to win MVP.

I’m curious as to who the real MVP candidates are. QB production is down so I’m really gearing towards awarding it to a defensive player like Myles Garrett. I know some people have also cited CMC and Hill.

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[–] OutboardTips@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lamar Jackson

[–] TitanSR_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

cmc mvp

tyreek opoy

[–] ShipMaker24@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] ejroberts42@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek if he gets to 2000 yards. I wouldn’t mind seeing Garrett win, having a defensive player win MVP would be awesome

[–] youtube_and_chill@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The real MVP is a QB...

[–] HisExcellency20@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I said a few weeks ago that if Jalen Hurts and the Eagles came out of this gauntlet part of their schedule with statement wins against top teams/QBs then he would win the MVP.

So far he's beaten Tua and the Dolphins, Dakota and the Cowboys, and Mahomes and the Chiefs. He and the Eagles have Allen and the Bills next, then San Fran, then Dallas again before rounding out in Seattle.

I know passing numbers for QBs are down, and Hurts' are down especially, but if he wins two or even three of those games and the Eagles have the best record in the league, with his total TD count, it'll be hard to give the award to anyone else. Not to mention he has Giants, Cardinals, Giants at the end of the year to pad the stats if need be.

I know I'm biased, but he is currently the favorite to win MVP despite lower passing numbers than most, and he was runner up last year (and the favorite before he got hurt), despite also not having crazy high passing stats. McCaffrey will win OPOY, but MVP is and honestly should be a QB award.

[–] moneyinthebank216@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett, Browns aren't in the Playoff conversation without him

[–] anonymousscroller9@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If tyreek gets 2000 him.

[–] sleepyguy-@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Its sucks that Drew never won an MVP. For all of his amazing seasons they just happened to coincide with someone else’s equally if not more amazing season.

[–] cdot666@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Got_yayo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Dreadsbo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek Hill

[–] Spoof2020@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC, Reek, Garrett, Dodson

Two offensive options and two defensive options.

Personally think CMC and Garrett are 1A and 1B with Hill behind them. Dodson let down by how fucking terrible Bills Offense has been meaning they get fucked over a lot but he's been electric IMO

[–] NotActuallyAnExpert_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jason Kelce. DO IT

[–] Animaleyz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Garrett all the way

[–] marmatag@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This year isn’t over. We have the luxury to just let it play out. And mvp voting is a fat who cares from me.

[–] Walks_with_Chaos@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’ll be a QB. And it should go to a QB.

Nearly every team would be much less good without their starting QB (aside from teams who have shit QBs already)

[–] Warhorse_99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it’s Myles, Hill & CMC. I’d love for Myles to get it, but he’d have to step it up even though he’s been unbelievable. As a fan I’d be happy with a single MVP vote & DPoY. I think Hill maybe has the edge on those 3 though. Realistically Hurts or Mahomes wins by default though.

[–] RogueTiger23@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett. Honestly, he’s been absolutely brilliant this season and is the leader of a loaded defense that will most likely carry the team to the playoffs.

As a Texans fan, I want Stroud to be the MVP if this team wins the division and goes to the playoffs. We were expected to be a top 10 pick again this season and what he’s done this season is incredible. Respect to Hurts, but Stroud has had a better season.

[–] GhostMug@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It should be Myles Garrett. Browns offense has been bad and the defense has been near historic at times and he leads the league in sacks. The Browns are likely 2 games worse without him.

But, as others have said, it will still probably be a QB. Instead of going to the most deserving player, it will go to the next most deserving QB.

[–] cheeseburgerpillow@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hill, Brown, CMC

[–] NagoGmo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC

All day

[–] gummybearattack@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Trent Williams.

[–] Imaginary-Double2612@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

QBs are almost always MVP because they are the MVP. There is no team that is a RB away from being a contender. No team thats a WR away. No team thats a linebacker or a DL away. In order for anyone other than a QB to get it they have to do be truly special and absolutely invaluable to their team. If there was a year for a non QB to get it i think this season is their best bet. But this “best QB award” talk is getting tiring.

[–] sonfoa@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If the Browns make the playoffs I'd say Myles Garrett

[–] Leopold_Bloom_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Travis Kelce for bringing all the Swifties into the fold.

[–] Reck335@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The only possible alternative to QB would be Mccaffrey

[–] ThrowBatteries@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Based on that qualification, Lamar Jackson

[–] downtimeredditor@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mike Tomlin

Motherfucker will find a way to get to 9+ wins with some BS

[–] RockEmSockEmRabi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Sherriff18@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

My objective MVP list in no particular order:

Myles Garrett Tyreek Hill CMC Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson Demeco Ryans Lions O-Line Eagles O and D-Lines

The definition of an MVP is far beyond statistical dominance. These players or units provide the most value to their respective teams IMO.

Though I agree that this year shows as much as any season why non-QB's have as much or more impact, I have to include Mahomes and Lamar because their teams are winning by operating through them; Mahomes is carrying an otherwise pedestrian offense, and Lamar's skillset and newfound ownership of the system far outweighs his touchdown production, or lack thereof. You could argue both teams' defenses are playing well enough to suppress the value of the QB's, but those values can by synonymous, especially since all of their losses have been at the expense of their teammates (especially Mahomes' receivers dropping passes).

[–] ziggyjoe212@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

TJ Watt. He's the only good player on D (Minkah is injured and Cam is 35). He single handedly brings the pass rush. He bats down balls, he causes TOs, he TFL's. He is the defense. We're 6-4 with the worst offense in the league and a very mediocre defense.

Honestly, he might even be underrated. Early in his career Donald was a dominant force. Recently people have been comparing him to Garrett. Even Madden gave Garret a higher rating than Watt. Absurd.

[–] prizzabroy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hill is on a freakish pace to get to 2000 yards and I believe he will do it. That’s MVP in my book

[–] InternationalBand494@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek then

[–] AWYH@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] windphibian@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC 100% if it isn’t a QB and I don’t think it’s close.

[–] mcm0313@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There’s really no clear-cut best player (or team for that matter) this season. I’d say Tyreek Hill would probably be my pick right now if I had a vote. Myles Garrett, Christian McCaffrey, Micah Parsons, DeRon Bland, T.J. Watt, C.J. Stroud, Keenan Allen, A.J. Brown, CeeDee Lamb, Tua…only two QBs in that list but any of those guys could deservedly get a few votes.

[–] LuckyStax@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Justin Jefferson

[–] DemonDeacon86@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I disagree. CJ Stroud is my MVP so far. That roster has no business winning more than 4, maybe 5 games, and they could win the division.

[–] Menanders-Bust@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett

[–] SSSEEELLL17@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett

[–] michaelscarn1313@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

AJ Brown was on track to definitely be in the conversation before his 1 catch game last week. I'd say he's having the best offensive season for a non-QB along with Tyreek and CMC.

[–] -banned-@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d say Myles Garrett but he’s slowed on the sacks quite a bit, he’s not winning by a lot and wasn’t even in 1st place until recently

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[–] StreetCornOnTheLow@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] PROfessorShred@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well start of the season it was Travis Kelce without a doubt. He is world renound on and off the field and has has 7 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons. He is one of the best TE to play the game and is probably coming up on the end of his career before too long. Obviously he isn't getting the production this year but that's because he is getting doubleteamed nearly every play. I know it's a much harder sell now but if you take into his career and who he is dating and what that is doing to bring in female viewership I think he absolutely is the MVP even if his numbers arent showing it.

[–] dlank7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Patrick Mahomes since he apparently has to run, pass AND catch.

[–] MrStealurGirllll@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Miles Garrett should for sure be a finalist

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