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Most people seem to be giving their ranks on MVP voting citing only QBs. It’s hard to imagine that just a title over 10 years ago Brees’ 46 TDs wasn’t enough to win MVP.

I’m curious as to who the real MVP candidates are. QB production is down so I’m really gearing towards awarding it to a defensive player like Myles Garrett. I know some people have also cited CMC and Hill.

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[–] ozairh18@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

My pick for non-QB MVP would be Myles Garrett

[–] CordycepsAndPancakes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean if stroud keeps playing the way he is then he should win it. Dude turned around a trash team and could potentially lead them to a division win and home playoff game in 1st year.

[–] gyman122@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

To me it’s gotta be Garrett if not a QB, which it will be.

I believe awards should tell the story of the season, this is the season that defenses bit back and nobody proves that more than Garrett and the Browns. But instead it’s gonna go to Hurts or Mahomes or Lamar who are having what will probably go down as career average (if that) years

[–] pmurr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'd say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because we seem to elevate the opposing team every week

[–] MelancholyWumpus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“A QB shouldn’t win MVP this year”

Love how that’s stated so matter of factly and also so wrong.

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[–] duvalbosnian@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek all day

[–] asmallercat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This could have been Jefferson’s year if he didn’t get hurt.

[–] arc777_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I would like to see Myles Garrett win MVP if the Browns make the playoffs

[–] West1234567890@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Crazy Hill is going to destroy the receiving yard record and he's not even an afterthought at +3000

[–] Parents_Mistake3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Since their is a sub zero percent chance a QB wins. I give it to stroud.

He’s outplaying Mahomes an Hurts who are for whatever reason the top 2 ranked.

[–] J-Colio@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If Daron Bland breaks the NFL pick-6 record (Howell twice and Josh Allen still on the schedule), then he deserves to AT LEAST be in the conversation!

[–] RootBeerFloatz69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Miles Garrett. Dude just flat out is the most valuable player in football right now. Second place goes to Jason Kelce. Those are the correct answers, but everybody knows that a qb always gets to be prom queen. Makes no damn sense.

[–] Old-butt-new@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] zombiejeesus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Probably CMC. I'm hoping it's Stroud though

[–] Saxophobia1275@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

a QB shouldn’t win MVP this year

And yet they will

[–] Tom_Foolery2@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Myles Garrett, CMC, DaRon Bland, Tyreek.. all worthy candidates. Ain’t no fucking way Jalen Hurts and his million interceptions should win MVP.

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[–] SuspendedInOH@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dustin Hopkins for MVP

[–] KD119@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s been ages since a RB has won MVP so I gotta say Lamar Jackson

[–] FooJenkins@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Think for a non-qb to win, they’d have to be well clear of others at their position. As great as tyreeks season has been, lamb, brown, and Allen are all still reasonably close to his number. Feel like CMC is the best bet at this point for non-qb, but still fully expect a qb to win it. I wouldn’t be surprised if purdy got more votes than CMC

[–] BiioHazzrd@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly if Tyreek passes 2k yards, he deserves it.

[–] Long_Signal2738@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I have been converted to the Myles Garret for MVP camp, fight me.

[–] Wezzleey@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We still have almost 2 months of regular season to play. The vast majority of opinions today will be invalid come January.

[–] gmhoyle@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The thing is, as the award is named right now, a QB should always win it. The real solution is renaming the award to the Most Outstanding Player, in which case it would and should be a race between Myles Garrett and Tyreek Hill

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[–] WestSide75@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett

[–] Rapidceltic@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] AleroRatking@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's going to be a QB but if not we need to see the rest of the season. Does Cleveland win the division? Then maybe Garrett. Do the 49ers go on a roll behind CMC? What about Pittsburgh with Watt. We just don't know.

[–] thedkexperience@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hurts is the starting QB for a 9-1 team that just beat the champions on the road.

That’s MVP shit.

[–] SanduskyTicklers@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] ohmysocks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

OP: “which non-QB should win MVP?”

90% of commenters: [just absolutely ignoring the question] “A QB”

FWIW my pick is Tyreek. Or Myles Garrett if he continues dominating and the Browns somehow win the division

[–] AzorAhai1TK@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nah it's still a QB. And probably between Lamar and Dak right now but anything could happen

[–] OJSimpsons@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] MrT_in_ID@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek by a mile

[–] Fineous4@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They need to rename it to best player of the year award. That’s what it was always supposed to be, but people always over thought it.

[–] badassery11@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Have you guys heard of Brock Purdy?

[–] rylanschuster6969@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I was amazed to see a headline that Hurts had passes Mahomes for #1 in MVP odds. Had no clue either of them were really in the conversation, but I guess there aren’t any other QBs making a great case either.

[–] Arkhangelzk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think CJ Stroud is necessarily going to win as a rookie, but it's hard to overstate how valuable he's been to the Texans. I thought this team was still at least a year away from winning, but he has them doing it immediately. Take him off the Texans and how many wins do they have?

I know you said no QB but QB is always the most valuable position so it's hard to see anyone else making a case. CMC and Hill are great players, but their teams are better without them than the Texans are without Stroud or the Eagles are without Hurts.

[–] THEW0NDERW0MBAT@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Still 7 weeks left, a QB could go on a tear and easily win

[–] anotherdanwest@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why should a QB not win MVP this year? The quarterback position is head and shoulders clearly the most important position for every team in today's game. So unless the top QB contenders all fall off a cliff between now and the end of December, picking anyone other than a QB does seem to me to be either likely or appropriate.

The last time a non-QB won the award was in 2012 (Adrian Peterson). The last time and Non-QB/Non-RB won the award was 1986 (Lawrence Taylor).

So if you are going to gun to my head tell me I have to pick an non-QB, it would have to be McCaffrey. But the truth is that, unless the 49ers finish with the best record in the league, it is almost certain that a QB will be winning MVP again this year.

[–] Drainbownick@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Running back. I’m going Lamar Jackson

[–] BayTerp@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC, Hill or Myles should win it

[–] Sartheking@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Brees would’ve won MVP with that almost any other season, but Rodgers decided to play god mode that year as well. He had 45 TDs to only 6 INT in 15 games despite sitting out most fourth quarters because they were up by so much.

[–] Scary_Performance183@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett

[–] maricopa888@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Scanning thru all this, there's so many people who define it as best player rather than most valuable to their team. I guess I'm old school, but there are other awards for "best".

For example, Manning and Rodgers both won this several times, but if they'd had an elite D, I don't think they would have deserved it. Instead, look what happened when each was out a year. The entire team collapsed on both sides.

IMO, Miles Garret is a no-brainer. It's the opposite - the D is carrying this team, and it's even more impressive with the massive losses on offense. If he was a Raven, his name wouldn't even be mentioned.

[–] ItsMeBenedickArnold@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Garrett, CMC, Tyreek are only contenders non-QB

[–] Ancient_Signature_69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

JJefferson certainly would’ve been at the top of the list if his hamstring didn’t explode

[–] drlasr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Daron Bland when he gets his 5th pick-six

[–] isworthtwointhe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As soon as Jalen is up for MVP:
"Doesn't count. Boo. Something something excuses"

Lamar won this in 2019. Hurts is more than deserving and should have won last year.

[–] Alexir23@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek Hill.

[–] spelltype@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Garrett would be my pick

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