The Bears are 25th in passing yards per game. They were 32nd last year.
They've pretty much been a bottom 5 passing offense for the entire time that Justin Fields has been a starter.
At some point we just have to admit that he's not very good.
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Guys I swear.. once we get rid of Nagy, Trubisky is gonna excel. Just you watch! This is how we sound.
He ranks 17 out of 38 QBs so I think there's bigger issues like coaching and play calling.
It’s a selective 11 plays. I’d say a 1/3 were great plays, 1/3 were good, and a 1/3 were bad. And that is just Fields. For every amazing talented play, he has an equally awful play.
The play where he says Justin creating something out of nothing with Mooney coming wide open just as Justin gets to the top of his drop is why Justin is the problem. That’s probably a 20+ yard catch and run if thrown on time and in stride. Instead he doesn’t know what defense the lions are in and cant/wont ever make that pass.
He does not throw Middle of field. It's a really rare occurrence if he does.
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It is obvious to people who don't think every QB should be Brady
Amen 🙏🏻 🐻 ⬇️
Why does everyone love the phrase "The Problem" so much? It's killing me lol
I am sick of it, but it's just a part of the current clickbait sports lexicon that I hate so much including
"The Guy"
"He is Him"
"The Solution"
"Generational"
"Elite"
Sports takes have probably never been nuanced, but I think it's gotten worse recently
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After this season, ESPN should make a mini-series documentary called THE PROBLEM, and analyze what happened the last 3 years. What was THE PROBLEM? Fields? Coaching? Both? Tune in next week.....
I hate the term “the one” or “him”, like there’s one QB out there who was born to take us to the SB.
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Because when your team is 3-8 there's obviously a problem.
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Fields isn't "The problem", but he's not the solution either and he is "a problem".
There are a lot of positions in the NFL where you can contend with a mediocre player - Quarterback is not one of them.
How do we know his potential with this coaching staff? Do we know for sure the offensive staff are able to develop a young quarterback? I'm not giving him a pass, but based on what I have seen of this staff and the top QBs in the draft I don't know if it's wise to move on from him.
If Bears draft a QB in April it is not because Justin Fields is the problem.
Regardless of whether Fields is the problem or the coaches, it won’t do much good to separate one from the other yet again
If the coaches go, as they should, then the new incoming coaches need to be able to draft their own guy.
Justin isn't the problem but he's not the solution either. It's time to reset the clock. Ugh....I'm getting tired of this.
he's one of the worst qbs on 3rd down. He has a 57% completion on 3rd down. The only down he has more ints than td.
he's one of the worst qbs in the 4th quarter. over half of his ints come in the 4th quarter.
out of 32 starts fields has a turnover in 24 of them
He has one career comeback drive. It was set up by a turnover where we ran the ball on every play. Justin accounted for -1 yards.
Justin is one of many problems with this team. That includes a GM who choose fields over stroud. That includes a defensive HC orchestrating one of the worst pass defenses in the league. That choose Getsy as OC.
One doesn't invalidate the other.
DJ, JJ, and Sweat if we ignore that terrible contract are the only 3 people worth keeping. Wright and Dexter go in the TBD category with good and bad data points to point at that you'd expect from rookies learning in the NFL.
They hate him cause he told the truth 👆
He is, however, a problem. And given that he plays the most important position, a fairly serious one.
At this point anyone who thinks Fields is the problem at this point is just trolling.
He’s dealing with inconsistency everywhere and still looks about avg.
There's a ton of irrational Fields hate in this sub. Fields may not be "the guy", but way too many people have been out on him since last season and never wanted to give him a chance at all.
Nothing pulls these people out of the woodwork more than the big all-22 breakdown guys like Jenkins and JT giving him a lot of praise. They have to rush to the comments to "debunk" it and it's clear they didn't even watch.
He's played well 3 of the last 4 games he's played.
He is, however, *a* problem, you stupid bitch.
Didn't watch, but I'd say Fields is 'a problem' but not 'the problem'.
Unfortunately it is hard to gauge how much of a problem Fields is and how correctable he is when he's being lead/coached/etc by such a terrible coaching staff.
"Mitch Trubisky is not the problem"
"Jay Cutler is not the problem"
"Rex Grossman is not the problem"
lol nobody ever said Grossman wasn't the problem. Even in his best year he sucked ass. Everyone knew he was being carried by a historically great defense.
In the beginning Fields wasn't the problem. Our OL was atrocious and our receivers were weak. There's no excuse now. Our receivers are solid and our OL is a lot better. He's been sacked 26 times in 7 games. Bagent was sacked 5 times in 5 games. I'm not saying Bagent is our guy because he certainly isn't. Fields gets sacked because he has poor awareness and is horrible under pressure. He makes horrible decisions. This is his biggest flaw. This is why he can't find open receivers and why he can't convert on 3rd and 4th downs. The sooner you all realize that without this, he will never be a franchise quarterback the better.
Keep it going with fields
I think he’s part of the problem. Here are the Bears problems right now:
- idiot owners
- horrible coaches
- Justin
2 and 3 are fixable. However, 1 isn’t and it’s going to be a lot harder to fix 2 and 3 with 1 still being a problem.
So not Swiss cheese pass defense?
he's so bad it's funny actually
We are past the point of needing to evaluate every snap to see if Fields is good or not. He is what he is at this point. He can not play at a high level consistently. He can play at a high level for a drive. He can play at a high level for a half, even. You can find a handful of examples where you can argue he played at a high level for an entire game. But he can’t do it repeatedly, week after week. For every high, there are 3 or 4 lows. For every amazing play or drive there are just as many, if not more, catastrophic game changing mistakes. You just can’t win like that, which is obvious if you look at our win loss record.
He might not be the problem but he needs a fresh start and we need to reset the qb clock.
Is Justin good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL? Probably. Is he a guy that can make great plays occasionally? Yup. Is he a guy that's consistent enough to give $50 mil per year and can lead you to a Super Bowl? Not a chance.
Keep Fields - draft the elite need positions around him. I want investments in EDGE, WR, C, T/G, 3T before another 1st round pick on QB. We have real needs that no QB can mask alone.
Correct. He is not the problem. He is one of our problems. He is lower on the ladder of problems but not that low. Hell even if you like him and think we should keep him he’s about to need a new contract that will require big money. That in itself is a problem.
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As critical as I've been of Fields' 4th quarter performance, I wouldn't mind sticking with him as long as the gm amd hc leave
i love how this post gets engagement but JT’s video was largely ignored because it didn’t fit their narrative lol
JTO is a Fields truther. He constantly excuses bad play from Fields by saying “I don’t know if he’s coached to do that or not” while absolutely lambasting Zach Wilson for fucking up in identical plays. He was a bad QB that doesn’t actually coach and always, always, always blames bad scheme and excuses bad execution when he really can’t tell the difference between the 2.
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I feel like this exact thumbnail has been used 11 times this year lol
Dudes a kid getting paid millions of dollars. Isn’t a leader , dances and showboats , he’s the leader on the field.
This sub is bipolar lol
But Justin is a problem, for opposing defenses.
What if I told you, not being the problem doesn’t mean you’re the solution either.
He may not be THE problem. But takes like this move all of the blame away from him, and he deserves at least a reasonably large portion of the blame for the offensive struggles since he was drafted.
He hasn't been good enough, even separate from the coaching and playcalling. Missing easy throws, holding the ball too long, slow reads. These are things in which Justin Fields CAN make a difference, but hasn't. He is great with his feet, but that type of QB never stays that type of QB for long in this league. Every "running QB" has eventually had to be a "throwing QB", or else they washed out of the league.
I like Justin. He has busted his tail and seems to want to win badly. I wish he had been good here. He just has not. I hope he can find a way to build a long career in the NFL, whether with the Bears or not.
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