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[–] KA8Z@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Denial ain’t a river in Egypt

[–] Videogamesarereel@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lol is that real?

I'm posting this whenever people say start Bagent

[–] The_Bandit_King_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

4 years losing with bustin Fields

[–] frydawg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Believe it or not you can blame multiple parts of a team

[–] maddabattacola@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like a lot of people in the Bears fan base have an unhealthy expectation around QB play and aren't content to settle for anything less than "generational" talent.

If Fields keeps playing like he did against DET, DEN, and WSH, the organization will gain more for trading one of their first round picks + getting more talent to help Fields win than resetting with a QB who has unknown capabilities and will suffer from the same sort of pressure that causes a lot of guys to fail here.

[–] t-pat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think basically the entire Bears fan base is united in thinking the coaching isn't good enough

[–] pygreg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

For real. OP, are these "people" in the room with us now?

[–] missuz-featherbottom@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Quite possibly the only thing we are united on.

[–] Ok-Tune-8859@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That's because they're quick To judge and slow to understand. It's way over their head... And they feel that the bears winning or losing Defines who they are.. And that is sad..

[–] moneyman2222@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yup these posts are literally just manufactured hate/Fields truthers making it seem like Fields haters are blaming him instead of coaching, completely ignoring any actual criticism and pretending like you can't criticize both

[–] TurdPhurtis@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The team stinks, stunk, and stank. That said why does ol Luke feel like Nagy 2.0 when calling a game? He just calls plays just to call plays.

[–] Practical-Courage812@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I really just want a Fields "Tell Martz i said fuck him" moment.

[–] MostValuableBum@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Justin when DJ is 4 yards from a first down (he’s great at yards after catch):

[–] tripbin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Me when I see us go through the same cycle of thinking it's "just the coaches" again...

[–] tacoorpizza@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the offense was the only part of this team struggling then I would blame Fields. But the offense, defense, and special teams are bad so to me that is all on coaching.

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[–] Sphiffi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What if I want to blame both

And a bunch of other players as well

[–] GrdiSr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As a life long Bears fan I'm very well aware that multiple problems can exist at the same time.

[–] Lysol20@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean Fields has his issues and is likely not the answer for long term success. I support him though, and can't help wondering how he would look with a great offensive mind. He is significantly more talented than Trubisky, so it could be worth finding out if he plays well the next month and a half. But for now, you have to draft Caleb.

[–] run-donut@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think at this point if you can’t see Field’s is talent, you just don’t watch modern football. It’s that simple for me.

[–] djrandp8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Coaching is 100% to blame. But I believe a new coach with a high draft pick is most likely picking his own QB. Fields has not done enough to overcome the coaching deficiencies. It sucks but that’s the NFL.

[–] FattyLumps@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have not seen a single post or comment in any part of the internet that argued coaching isn’t a problem for this team.

[–] redditbann@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just said this in another comment on this thread.

Even the people who are down on Fields recognize that coaching is a problem as well. Conversely, you have people who just say it's the coaching.

[–] F1reatwill88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Me when I hear people acting like Fields isn't part of the problem.

[–] redditbann@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

But, but, he had a great game passing under 200 yards and fumbling again into the end zone. At least, that's what Dan Bernstein told me.

[–] jsnhbe1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

bottom line is he plays well enough to be a true contender. he is better than the top college QBS. no reason to draft one. coaching has to go.

[–] Upset_Researcher_143@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The coaching is a major part of the problem, but Fields is partially to blame too. He doesn't have good QB instincts (i.e. pocket presence, receiver progression), but he is still a great athlete and could play the position competently if he was coached properly. The problem is that they're trying to turn him into Aaron Rodgers instead of Jalen Hurts

[–] GroktheDestroyer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You know it’s possible for them to both suck, right?

[–] broke-collegekid@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

People, it is not just one or the other. You can say our coaching is terrible while also acknowledging Fields has not shown he can be a good to great starting QB in the NFL at the same time. This is the stupid “Mitch or Nagy” debate all over again and like last time, the answer is both are at fault.

[–] Emotional_One_6322@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fields has been playing with a bunch of nobodies outside of Moore, when he gets MHJ and some better coaching, play-calling and protection he will be cooking the league.

[–] Only_Garbage_8885@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If he can only make one read what is the point of having two number 1 receivers on the team? It won’t fix a thing.

[–] PortillosBeef27@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Let me ask you, What is to be said of a rookie cj stroud coming into the league with a new coaching staff and a makeshift o-line and less experienced receivers, who are less talented. And doing more than Justin fields could not come close to doing in almost 3 full years

It seems You have no argument here, but I’d like to hear any responses

[–] MarcoLiftz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Bacchus1976@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No one is excusing the coaching.

Fields Stans resorting to lame straw men at this point.

[–] CLG_MianBao@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If we were the Jets, I would 100% be blaming the QB. They have elite pieces everywhere and are a legit contender with a QB. Zach Wilson ruined them.

We are not the Jets. We have multiple pieces struggling and holes everywhere.

Justin has been far from perfect, but he’s been pretty darn good the last 4 starts, and the jury isn’t out on him yet. If we stays at a 100+ rating for the rest of the season, I have a hard time moving off him.

[–] letseditthesadparts@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

People have blamed the coaches, but the caveat for the next coaching regime can’t be “Fields is your starter”.

[–] Chemical_Astronaut_9@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Him not wanting to put up his middle finger was wholesome as fuck. He's a good young man.

I hope it clicks for him. He looked better last game with the quick throws.

Some regression at the end, but Improvement overall.

Just my gut, haven't watched any tape, or read any stats.

[–] Simple_Net4918@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

These fuking clowns put on another circus act here come the bears this entire team is one gigantic failure  fuking matt eberflus brain must have been soaked in flouride when he was a kid , fuking prune faced bastard drawing up all sorts of circus acts for these pathetic bastards its like circus soliel except its a bunch of retards playing football with their goddamn striped clown uniforms and **** FUK this goddamn fuking dumbass has no business coaching a team goddamn fuking moron couldnt coach his way into an orgasm at a brothel and fuking stupid fuking worthless sack of garbage every single one of his crayon colored plays is at the end of the game is pure garbage. GOD DAMNIT THE ENTIRE FUKING THING DISGUSTS ME PIECE OF **** TEAM MATT EBERFLUS LOOKS LIKE A FUKING MORON OUT THERE LIKE A FUKING SCARED LITTLE GIRL THIS WHOLE TEAM COMMUNICATES IN FUKING CLOWN BEEPS WHISTLES AND HONKS FUKING MATT EBERFLUS HONKS HIS GODDAMN CLOWN HORN THEN LUKE GETSY FUKING BEEPS HIS GODDAMN RED BALL CLOWN NOSE AND FINALLY JUSTIN FIELDS COMPLETES THE FUKING ACT BY DOING SOME DUMB RETARD CLOWN **** THAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS WHOLE FUKING ORGINIZATION IS JUST ONE GIGANTIC CLOWN COLLEGE I SWEAR TO FUKING GOD, THIS TEAM PIECES OF ****

[–] JAWS13588@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Both are true. The coaching is as bad as it gets and fields isn't as good as everyone wants to believe.

[–] Ok-Tune-8859@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well that's a fans take. JUSTIN and players know they are developing. And that certainly means they are calling plays and putting them in adverse conditions to develop.. they are going to be compromising wins.. Every player that didn't make a play Sunday that had an opportunity is looking in the mirror right now they're not looking at the coaches.. They're not pointing fingers at others...

[–] Icy-Butterscotch3286@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Pittsburgh Steelers are 6-4 and weren't happy with the offensive lack of production so they fired their OC. 6-5 Buffalo not happy with their lack of offense --out goes the OC. Raiders dump their lousy head coach. Bears...well we don't fire coaches midstream because we're so classy. LOL

[–] BigTimeButNotReally@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Literally no one here thinks the coaches aren't the biggest problem. No one. Some of us think there are other problems worth addressing.

[–] hammerSmashedNail@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Did anyone feel confident the bears were going to march down the field and score on the last possession? I couldn’t shake the feeling they were going to lose even while they were up. It’s a bad news bears year for sure.

[–] InvaderWeezle@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I saw someone in the postgame thread say something like "Fields is gonna have to play way worse than that for me to want a QB over Marvin Harrison Jr." and I couldn't agree more. Give me a good coach and a good center and this offense will be legit

[–] EquivalentGold3615@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

How about ownership?

[–] Videogamesarereel@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lol is that real?

I'm posting this whenever people say start Bagent

[–] EquivalentGold3615@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

How about ownership?

[–] discwrangler@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Everyone gets a scapegoat

[–] discwrangler@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Everyone gets a scapegoat

[–] HoPMiX@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What confuses me is bears fans that think Caleb Williams is going to be any different than fields.

[–] HoPMiX@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What confuses me is bears fans that think Caleb Williams is going to be any different than fields.

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