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We are digital librarians. Among us are represented the various reasons to keep data -- legal requirements, competitive requirements, uncertainty of permanence of cloud services, distaste for transmitting your data externally (e.g. government or corporate espionage), cultural and familial archivists, internet collapse preppers, and people who do it themselves so they're sure it's done right. Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Time (tm) ). Along the way we have sought out like-minded individuals to exchange strategies, war stories, and cautionary tales of failures.

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[–] Bob_Spud@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There are lot of rumours that SSD prices are either going to up or remains static.

[–] sigbhu@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

this is why i made the decision to have all 16TB of my media server on SSDs

[–] NiteShdw@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Price per gigabyte is what we should be looking at and not specific models of drives.

[–] Nebakanezzer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

why do we keep posting these?

[–] Gradius2@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well, this is pretty normal. Just wait when Micron will enter with the new fab fully active.

[–] TigermanUK@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Cost per TB on hdd's is what I look at and it doesn't move down much if at all.

[–] chrisprice@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The good news is HAMR drops next year, and that will substantially lower prices.

WD has all but said they will not be able to answer HAMR next year, and will have to compete on cost with smaller drives.

And Toshiba and HGST have been silent.

All that adds up to Seagate getting to 32-40TB next year, and the rest of the players having to slash prices so buyers can get two drives and save a lot.

[–] good4y0u@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

HDDs are getting cheaper at the high end.

SSDs are still new enough that they are still figuring out how to get economic viability where HDDs were a decade ago.

1TB for $100 is new in NVMEs for example.

[–] acidblue811@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's probably because of a physical limitation, kinda like what happened to magnetic tape back in the day. Give it a couple decades, the same thing would probably happen to ssds

[–] psychoacer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe not as dramatic of a price change but the prices for HDD are dropping. You couldn't get an 18TB hard drive for under $280 last year. Now they're on sale for $200.

[–] acidblue811@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's probably because of a physical limitation, kinda like what happened to magnetic tape back in the day. Give it a couple decades, the same thing would probably happen to ssds

[–] psychoacer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe not as dramatic of a price change but the prices for HDD are dropping. You couldn't get an 18TB hard drive for under $280 last year. Now they're on sale for $200.

[–] gabest@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's when a cheap substitute clears the low end of the market and only the expensive top remains profitable to make. Similar to iGPUs. You won't find a RTX 4010-4030 for $100, because the gpu built-in the cpu is just good enough for non-gamers.

[–] klauskinski79@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Past performance is a terrible predictor of future performance. Ssd prices dropped a lot since the pandemic since demand dropped and the factories are still there. As usual this normally means that new factories will be delayed and prices will be relatively higher going forward for a while. Now the longterm trend still favors ssd but 2022 Is a shitty year to base your price projections on

[–] Primary_Olive_5444@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Look at Seagate share price.. hasn’t tank

[–] DaivobetKebos@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

HDDs have hit a wall of physics, not of engineering. Well technically it still is engineering but the issues are ones that require new better understanding of physics to solve.

Me I am hype for the LTO price crashing on the next few years.

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