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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 77 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I doubt most people use an adblocker.

Anyone who's aware of these issues or cares about them really should have been smart enough to switch to Firefox a long time ago.

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

A lot of people do use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users

You can try other sources as well. The statistics say significant numbers on multiple places.

[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

46% global and 27 USA? Damn the us people are even more tech illiterate than I would've guessed. I suppose the 85+% market share of the iPhone among teens has something to do with it.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you really surprised, considering how much our education system gets hijacked by right-wing legislation?

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[–] Vendul@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Must be enough to make big companies angry

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[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I use duck duck go. The browser on my phone even auto opts out of cookies

[–] rbhfd@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You can also do that with Firefox on your computer.

It's not in settings, but you can easily google the instructions.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've seen this one before.

  • A ton of people will complain
  • Firefox will get a bunch of users for a few days
  • 90% will go back to Chrome

That last 10% will be happier but that's just the way it goes. This is based on Netflix, Reddit, Twitter, and Microsoft.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The majority of people on Chrome at this point are the same people that only ever used Internet Explorer until like 2015. They aren't even using Ublock, they don't even know what it is. The kind of people who have their nephew set their computers up for them.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How dare you! I AM the nephew that sets up their computers for them, and I install Firefox.

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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 10 points 2 years ago

And that's why I set my elders up with uBlock.

[–] invalidname@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not sure they understand the flow on effects. Those of us being affected and work in the corporate IT space who have a lot of say in what browsers are used will simply replace chrome with Firefox on our thousands of machines nationwide without a second thought. They are digging their own grave.

[–] rolaulten@startrek.website 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's a little more complex then that.

First we need to draft a project to keep the PMs happy. Then test the change...

Then get it through change management...

Or just have our friends in secops make it a security call and a priority. Not saying I've done this before - no sir.

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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 31 points 2 years ago
[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Back before web browsers had ad-blocking extensions, we had programs like Web Washer. It was a local, ad-blocking proxy program that you ran along side your browser. To use it, you just changed your browser's network settings to point to Web Washer. And the ads would be filtered before they even reached your browser. It would be no problem to implement this again.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago

PiHole is the most common way I hear of network-level ad blocking these days.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Google when people don't stop using chrome and just disable ublock:

:)

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They won't make people disable uBlock. They'll just make it stop working, and people will just think the ads have gotten better or uBlock has gotten worse.

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[–] Captain_Baka@feddit.de 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Google when people stop using chrome

Not so sure about that. I know more than enough persons who still like to use Edge (Internet Explorer).

[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The problem isn't Edge in itself. It is good if there are many browsers. But when Javascript became more than just a play thing, all of a sudden browser slowly moved to chromium as an engine. There used to be Opera, IE, Edge, Firefox, Safari and Chrome with each their own browser engine. Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari and Firefox left. Google is way too powerful with their marketshare. They constantly try to implement features that are bad for users.

Please use Firefox if you can!

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari/WebKit and Firefox/Gecko left.

{browser}/{browser_engine}

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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

New engines are in test stage, servo, ladybird etc.

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Oh thank God. I was worried nobody would make new engines.

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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I use Edge at work and it's a really decent browser. It's not Internet Explorer it's basically Chrome with different tracking software lol

Obviously I use Firefox personally. But it's actually decent.

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[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It won't do anything to their market share. At work my colleagues keep asking me "Why don't you use chrome?" or saying things like "Isn't Firefox slow?". They simply don't know or don't care to know. Also Firefox IS slow or just doesn't work, not because it's a bad browser but I've been seeing a trend of websites being designed to make it appear slow, like YouTube takes 5 extra secs on Firefox to load videos Clipcham and Adobe outright not supporting Firefox on their websites. The internet is a clown show.

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[–] corbin 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

uBlock Origin has a Manifest V3 version, it's not going anywhere. I swear there are more people not reading anything here than Facebook.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 13 points 2 years ago

Nah, there's a big difference between what and how much you're allowed to block in V2 vs V3 - the current status V2 adblock is way outside the range of V3's version.

I'd say V3 blockers can probably block at best 30% of what V2 can block. Which means it has to be selective. It essentially nuders the extension, making it worthless - an adblocker that only blocks some ads is not an adblocker at all. It's more of an ad restrictor, and in heavily monetized sites it might not even be that.

[–] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

It has but i read somewhere its very limited and can be disabled by Google whenever they want.

[–] Clipboards@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I'm sure some people will swap, but nah no way it's a meaningful loss

Ad blockers will still exist too, they just won't be as effective. If the layman installs an ad blocker and gets one less ad, they won't question it further

[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sadly, they know damn well that people won't stop using it

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[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder what is the thought process here, why wouldn't someone who went the length of installing an adblocker look for other browsers as options?

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The vast majority of Chrome users will continue to use Chrome, as the vast majority of internet users do not use adblock software.

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[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

And everyone rediscovered Firefox and the world was at ease.

[–] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

This will do nothing to stop Google Chrome's market share tbh.

Installing an ad blocker is like the easiest thing in the world to do. Literally takes less time than watching the ad yet even most young people don't use it. It's the reason why Edge has such a high market share despite not being all that great. It's the default for many people so inertia will carry it forward. Google Chrome could literally record your screen at all times and sell it to the highest bidder and it would still dominate the market.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

waaah please watch this piss poor ad that we spent 20 million on to get in front of your face only for you to skip it or ignore it entirely we are taking any possibility you will not see this away so you HAVE to you HAVE to buy it

[redacted] yourself you fucking parasites

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Given how quickly everyone I know took to using Chrome on phones despite no adblock being available, I think sadly it won't have as big an impact as I wish it would.

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[–] MrsDoyle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I stopped using Chrome a while back, but still use Gmail because I'm lazy. Every time I crank open Gmail in another browser, Google whines at me to use Chrome. That grizzling pop-up is now the main reason I don't use Chrome, and it will eventually drive me to migrate away from Gmail. DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

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[–] ComradeWeebelo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember when Chrome released and it was a hot mess performance wise. I haven't used it since and it doesn't seem like I'm missing anything.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago

The last straw for me was about a decade ago when an update completely broke Chrome on my machine. It would open and immediately crash, even after reinstalling. Everything else worked fine, virus scans came back clean and everything, it was only Chrome. I spent the next 2 months playing browser roulette before settling on ol' reliable Firefox once again.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I saw a comment mention something about “power vs authority,” and that seems relevant here.

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Anyone that really cared switched a year ago when they said they were going to do this. They told us they were going to do this publicly.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 6 points 2 years ago
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