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Ask Lemmy is a place to ask thought provoking questions. The mods have been lenient with some of the recent posts on the basis that they must provoke thought for some people, but after seeing two posts essentially saying "what do you think of my stick?", I believe we can raise the bar a bit on what kind of thoughts we want to provoke here.

No more low effort posts please.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Repetitive meme posts can get annoying, and mods should intervene in some cases, but I'd prefer if the rules were more open. It's hard to determine what is "low effort" and "thought-provoking", and Lemmy is small so further limiting content isn't that productive

Was this the post? https://lemmy.ca/post/9681692

I think people using this community are looking for something similar to AskReddit, and it's totally ok if you want to be different from that since the Fediverse allows for more communities to be made.

Personally, (and you don't need to run the community like this), I'm looking for a community for open-ended and discussion provoking questions, not necessarily thought-provoking questions. The stick one was fun and lead to fun discussion

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I sort of agree, mainly with the lower population of Lemmy concern, albeit I've also seen other questions that, while not low effort necessarily, have made me wonder, "Wouldn't this perhaps be better in a more specific community, or in a different style, like NoStupidQuestions?"

However, low population, not a moderator, so the mixed thoughts have left me refraining from asking or saying anything as I kinda think we already have an abundance of communities sparsely populated as-is and I'm not into backseat moderating. Still, the thoughts have been there and this thread's given a nice opportunity to voice them.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve also seen other questions that, while not low effort necessarily, have made me wonder, “Wouldn’t this perhaps be better in a more specific community, or in a different style, like NoStupidQuestions?”

Yea I've seen a few of those too. Questions that are too specific to a particular app/program or a specific personal problem. Those don't really belong here

  • "How do I do X on program Y" (bad) vs. "What's your favourite program that does Z" (good)
[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't the charter not be more appropriate for a "DiscussOnLemmy" group? And leave "AskLemmy" for proper, answerable questions? That mistake was made on reddit before.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

The most fun part of the early internet was the feeling that it was the Wild West. Lawlessness and fun. Obviously, rules are needed to keep things under control, but I agree that erring on the side of having fun isn’t a bad thing. It’s more inclusive and it lets people express themselves.

One of my favorite things to see on Lemmy is people who lurked on Reddit but feel free to talk here. Being too heavy-handed with rules might discourage those people from contributing.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is a really good point. Should the community be for thought provoking questions or discussion provoking questions?

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Both should be welcome. Especially with the current state of Lemmy (low user base), over moderation can be a real thing.

More narrowly tailored communities have narrower appeal and Q&A communities function off of their number of users.

This is one reason why on Reddit r/AskReddit (44M) has more users than r/AskMen (5.8M). And why r/AskMen has more users than r/AskMenOverThirty (458K).

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Appreciate your team being open to thinking about it :)

You could even ask it as a meta askLemmy question

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

There should be a community for both, but it should not be named "AskLemmy".

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Time to start a stick appreciation community called RamblinRods

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is one now lol: !stick@sh.itjust.works

see the recent post on !newcommunities@lemmy.world

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most people liked the stick post. I don't know how these whiners expect Lemmy to compete with reddit while also not allowing people to have fun.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Perhaps they don't know how to have fun

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The mods hate sticks. They are stick-bigots.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 9 points 2 years ago

All this anti-stick propaganda is getting to me.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ll have you know, one of my best friends is a stick.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We don’t know if that’s true but name 5 famous sticks. You know what just name 3

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago
  • Hank the Plank
  • The Fourth Branch of Government
  • The Elder Wand
[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Bigly effort

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The stick post was the most upvoted post in the past 7 days.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That doesn’t make it good.

[–] 0x4E4F 8 points 2 years ago

It doesn't make it bad either.

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[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Doesn't mean it fit in this community. Yeah it was probably fine to let one of those threads go by,, but the second was too much.

I honestly didn't think they fit and I checked the rules to see what was going on because I assumed this was a community similar to askreddit.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, it was way more interesting than the usual stuff here. So much about "thought provoking".

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

"How do you rate a stick?" is a pretty interesting question, and it as asked implicitly by that post. I'm in favor of posts like that

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree. This community isn't supposed to be a shitposting community. It's not quite the same as r/askreddit in terms of quality I'd say.

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[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I'd prefer a "casual stick Sunday" posts now and then, it's fun and I liked it a lot.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Understood. Sorry about that.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

At this point there should probably be a generic "just ask random questions for other Lemmy users" community to direct those people to. People don't seem to get that this one is similar to AskReddit in purpose, but Lemmy is small so there's no immediately obvious general communities.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

I usually use NoStupidQuestions as the catch all for when I don't have something better. We have a few communities for that

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

People don’t seem to get that this one is similar to AskReddit in purpose

Which does not make it anny better. Is there no better name for a group that is not about answering questions?

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're good sticks Bront.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I thought it was a fine stick. If the post gets upvotes, it's valuable to the community

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Oh. To be fair, the 'stick' thing has been a running meme for a couple weeks now in some subs.

I... Apologize for my part in the stick fiasco. My 8 year old REALLY wanted me to post about it a few weeks ago.

Might've been in reddit. I honestly don't notice the difference until I go try to use any of the short cuts that spez refused to implement in his shit app

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I blocked that community within an hour of seeing all the stick posts.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you think of my dick?

[–] pendulum_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It certainly is low... to the ground

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You unzip the coward's pantaloons. What comes out appears to be a penis.

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