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Parents Sue Gaming Companies Over ‘Video Game Addiction’, Because That’s Easier Than Parenting::Video game addiction. Sigh. Big sigh, even. Like, the biggest of sighs. We've talked about claims that video game addiction is a documentable affliction in the past, as well as the pushback that claim has received from addiction experts, who have pointed out that much of this is being done to allow doctors to get…

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[–] jmbreuer@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

In my opinion (see also Dr Gabor Maté), addictions (which, I also think, can be about petty much anything) are very much mostly attempts to escape pain, when better alternatives do not seem available to a person.

So, yeah, video game addiction can be a thing, and certain game designs exacerbate that (similar to what might fuel gambling addictions and such).

But all of this perspective only distracts from whatever is causing the people/kids pain, makes them seek out games in an addicted fashion in the first place.

[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe those parents will understand if someone tells them that is the same thing as suing as any alcohol brand for their kid's addiction.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As much as I see what a pointless move this is from the parents, we should acknowledge the alcohol industry and retailers have to take more responsibility to keep it away from children than game companies do. Stores can be punished if a kid goes there saying "I'm definitely 21" and they sell without checking.

There is some neglect from parents, there is the way how our society is overworked gets in the way of parents who want to do better, but a fraction of the blame can be put on game companies that sell games with gambling-like monetization without even rating it properly. They are not wrong about there being "addictive features" and "predatory monetization aimed at minors". Even Mario Kart World Tour has these, and it's rated E

[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 2 points 2 years ago

Absolutley, you are completely correct. I also heard that in some countries microtransaccions that rewarded "Random" items are being prohibited since its the same as gambling. Which in that case suing them for that would make sense.

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't want to be all old man yells at cloud, but back in my day popular games were played a lot because they were primarily enjoyable for the story, the achievement of completing a particular level or boss, playing against friends, etc. And sure, you'd have the odd bad parent trying to claim their kid was addicted to Counterstrike 1.6, but it was broadly speaking nonsense. The vast majority of games were offline, or had very limited online modes built around direct competition with other players (FPS, sports games, etc), and publishers would get all their money from the initial sale, with only a few games having expansion packs, most notable The Sims.

But in the early 2010s a few things changed:

  • broadband internet became ubiquitous in markets with high levels of existing gamers
  • distribution of games swapped from physical media to downloads
  • 'everyone' had a pretty powerful computer in their pocket making it much more accessible
  • a bunch of people in the industry started reading about positive psychology - the idea that you can create habits through rewards - and apply them to video games to increase playtime
  • those mechanics turned out to be very powerful in driving particular user behaviours, and started to be targeted at monetisation models - and so we got loot boxes, etc

So we went from a situation where video games were fun for the same reasons traditional games, or sports, are fun, to one where many video games include a lot of gambling mechanics in their core gameplay loops - loot boxes being the obvious one, but any lottery-based mechanic where you spend real money counts - in an industry with no relevant regulation, nor age limitation.

It is definitely possible for people to get addicted to these mechanics, the same way people can get addicted to casino games, or betting on horse racing, especially when for some games that is literally what the developer wants.

[–] Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago

What's next? Parents sue God over masturbation addiction.

[–] Tom_bishop@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they succeed in suing, next I'm gonna sue google for my youtube addiction, then sue reddit for my scrolling reddit addiction, then sue tiktok for my child's tiktoking addiction.

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