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TBH I have a mixed feeling about this.

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[–] regulatorg@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

Of course they would backport telemetry upgrades

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When did tech go from adding nice useful features to shoving shit up everyone's ass without consent.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know, when did it? I installed this update on Windows 11 and there's a simple toggle in the settings to turn off the Copilot button on the taskbar. And even when it's not disabled, I just don't use it when I don't want it to do something. This thread - like many others on this topic - is full of weird histrionics over this.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Very naive understanding of what it actually does.

If you are fine with being datamined by software and device you paid for, more power to you champ!

I am sure you got nothing to hide and you don't do any crime haha

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

It's basically a wrapper for Bing Chat. If anything I'm disappointed by how little it does. Possibly because I don't have Microsoft Office, it has some integrations with that when doing searches through your data (this is a feature of Office rather than of Copilot, though). Do you have any sources indicating it's doing more than that?

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have you checked the terms of use?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your question implies that you think there's something specific in those terms of service that's problematic. Care to share?

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OP already told you, they datamine your stuff.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What specific part of the terms of service cover datamining? OP said "If you are fine with being datamined by software and device you paid for, more power to you champ!", which is just a vague generic claim. If you're going to say that the Terms of Service allows for it please actually quote the bit that does so. Otherwise this is just wild fearmongering.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol how about you go look for it yourself, since you're the one who's gonna be using it. We're trying to do you a favor by warning you, if you don't care that's fine, but we're not going to handhold you through it.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

You brought it up. You either had some specific reason to think it was relevant or you're just fearmongering.

Refusing to explain that reason hints pretty strongly at the latter.

[–] thru_dangers_untold@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"More useful than Cortana" is the lowest of bars.

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

More useful than the thing I know my heard people talking about disabling? Wow, what a time to be alive!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

More useful at collecting your data.

Microsoft is doing a really good job convincing me to switch to Linux. Hopefully soon that will be a realistic possibility for me. Fuck Microsoft.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bing chat sensors it's output so much

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And the "personality" they gave it annoyed me far more than any human ever has.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

What the heck IS Copilot?

I hate articles that tell you, "Blorp is amazing! Blorp is coming out in 3 days! Everybody should have Blorp! Don't miss out on Blorp!'

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

My Ameliorated Windows won't be affected >:)

[–] peanuts4life@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am unimpressed with copilot on Windows 11. Privacy aside, It seems like a web wrapper for Bing ai, which is a performant chat bot, but isn't anything special when you compare it to openai's data analytics ai.

It wasn't able to update PC settings or files, for example. Though, I only had 15 min with it.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Indeed, this is my biggest complaint about Copilot - it doesn't seem to do anything that I can't easily do by just popping over to Bing. I'm hoping that it will see more updates in the near future.

[–] peanuts4life@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Tbh the grail for me would be if it could execute code in a persistent, local, virtualized environment. I'm sure that sort of product will come to Windows, but it can't come soon enough for me.

[–] Poiar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Really considering moving my main computer to Linux with the way things are going

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh goodie, now we can get the best of both clippy and Microsoft's Nazi chatbot, right on our desktop!

"It looks like you're trying to get some more Lebensraum, would you like some help with that?"
"No, you stupid thing, I'm just deleting a few files!"

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That article is from 2016, about an experimental Twitter chatbot that Microsoft tried out and immediately gave up on when it went awry. Clippy is even more ancient. This is ridiculous.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A joke is a lot like a frog, you can learn a lot by dissecting it, but the patient usually dies in the process.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It also dies when it's in an environment it can't survive in. The textual medium is terrible for sarcasm, especially when you're using it alongside people who are serious about hating on Microsoft for weird reasons. You need to mark it with an /s

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 2 years ago

It appears you are angry with me. Do you want me to explain how great I am?