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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So I have played 1 campaign with my brother and listened to a bunch of DND podcasts, I know how the game works but i'm not super familiar with the lore, whats the punchline here?

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 160 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

In some lore, a God named Bahamut exists. He's generally a good guy. He occasionally goes on strolls through the material planes in the disguise of an old man. He takes his posse of 7 Ancient Gold Dragons with him in the form of 7 Canaries.

People pick on the old man because it's just an old man with some birds. Then the old man unfolds into what is arguably THE good God in a lot of DnD lore (or at least the primary good God) with 7 immensely powerful creatures that start maxing out the challenge ratings.

The likelihood of surviving this encounter are very very very very slim. People talk about terrasques all the time. Giant mountain sized monsters but no. This is how you get annihilated.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 15 points 2 years ago

It's all about that action economy. Survive a terrasque hit (or hits in the case of multiattack)? No problem. Survive 8 terrasque hits? Problems.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So if you want your players to start RPing better (yikes that autocorrect) and playing more heroic people, you have the wrathful god spare them at the last moment or resurrect them with the threat of following through next time they meet if they don't shape up? Or is this just a good way to wipe the board with a good ol' TPK?

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago

TPK. If you've gotten to this point then you've tried everything. At that point it's just time to cleanse the board with holy fire because nothing is going to save it.

[–] sammytheman666@ttrpg.network 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I actually did this once. The party was already pretty chaotic, but in a mostly fun way. They didn’t devolve into murder hobos, but they started to walk a route that made me more and more uncomfortable as a DM. So I put him into the game as a random one time quest giver.

It was a warning and the group understood it. Because the table suddenly got really quiet.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago

I love this. Just drop a god in as a warning shot

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 34 points 2 years ago

Transcription:

The first panel has the text: "POV: The party has devolved into chaos and murder hobos" over a picture of Napoleon sitting, looking stern or unhappy, in front of a burning field or city. Napoleon is labelled "DM". Napoleon is taken from the painting "Napoleon I at Fontainebleau on March 31, 1814", superimposed upon a different painting.

Below that is a panel zooming in on Napoleon's face.

Below that is a panel zooming right in on Napoleon's eyes, under the text:

"You see an old man with 7 canaries"

(quotation marks included)

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Should have added the Hobo with a Shotgun.

[–] sammytheman666@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 years ago

You know they would paralyse him or charm him or anything and take the shotgun for themselves. Then torture the hobo to know how to make more shells.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I am the DM

I speak for the NPCs

Murder hobo again, and I'll break your fucking knees.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is that not just the DM equivelant of being a murder hobo?

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No. By that logic, a DM would never be able to balance the game, wouldn't be able to have a powerful BBEG, and wouldn't be able to have powerful non-killable NPCs.

It's the DMs job to control the world and guide it. Reacting to them slaughtering people and destroying towns doesn't make the DM a murderhobo. It's simply part of the job

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 years ago (28 children)

Nobody said they needed to attack the old man, they choose to do so themselves.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Time for some draconic punishment then

[–] drew_belloc@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I call this balance

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