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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1247902

Why YSK GrapheneOS is a step above the rest. I understand it's ironic de-google phone/tablet with google hardware, but it just works better then anything else. Permission toggles, pin scrambling, auto-reboot, scopes, MAC randomization, isolated user profiles, longer passwords, sandboxed apps, open source firmware, no bloat & the battery life is incredible now.

I hope people understand how easy it is to move to Linux & GrapheneOS full time & remove Apple, Google, Microsoft etc. It exceeded expectations so much so that I want to share it with other people. I cannot recommend this enough to improve your life. #FOSS

Saw this, and thought it was a rather interesting comments section. Seems like an active discreditation campaign going on. Focussing on past maintainer and the fact it doesn't work with 2 questionable bits of functionality (Google pay + Auto). Why would I want either in a privacy phone?

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[–] Deway@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

https://e.foundation/ is a great alternative if it supports your phone.

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Huschke@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

The good news is that it's also available for the Pixel a-series (4a, 5a, 6a, ...) which are fairly cheap.

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'd like the project to expand to others, but I think currently it relies on unlocking the bootloader, installing a new OS and relocking the bootloader and not many hardware manufacturers provide that right now.

I think without Pixel, there are a few things like Lineage (and I'm not sure about e/os) if the hardware isn't something you're going for. Other mobile linux isn't quite ready and needs time.

[–] Discola@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've been using it for a few months now and it's been super easy. The only things I miss are mobile pay and Android auto

[–] RelentlessArts@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Same here for mobile pay, car is not new enough to benefit much from auto though lol. According to the devs both are possible it just requires some development time.

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Reeeeeee!!!11!!11

Pixels are not sold here :(

[–] BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Okay serious questions - will it work with my play store apps? And what about my Gmail? Can I still use it? Because I don't have other email accounts and email is kind of important. Finally does android auto still work?

I'd love to de-google as much as possible, but some apps I unfortunately depend on day to day, mainly Niagra launched, and android auto.

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The second part of your first post was answered in my original post. Auto apparently doesn't work.

Play store apps should still work sandboxed. Email, I'm not sure, but I'd assume so. It works out of the browser fine. I'm not familiar with Niagra launched so couldn't comment.

Out of curiosity, what do you use auto for?

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All apps work fine on grapheneos, besides above mentioned pay, some banking and auto.

Using sandboxed google play gmail and regular apps from play store work fine. :)

You can read more about sandboxed google play here. Here: https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play

I really recommend you read above link, it goes more in-depth.

[–] featured@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use mobile payment nearly every day, i don’t think it’s productive to say that people shouldn’t want it in an otherwise private phone anymore than saying sandboxed Google play services are unnecessary in a private phone. These things bridge the gaps that stop people from making the switch, it’s good to support them

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, but with payments, it's high risk and complex. Payment providers want full control of their environment. Google aren't going to be comfortable rubber stamping degoogled phones. Saying, "hi google, can i get away from your spying, but can i have this spying" makes no sense to me. A bank card is ridiculously small and you can tap without pin or use pin if you prefer. You have a solution to the problem. Wanting it on your phone rather than via bank card isn't really providing anything extra to the solution. It's a massive non issue. Many phone cases carry cards. It's such a meh issue.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sad that one of the developers is a sadistic, harmful person. This Video from Louis Rossmann is a really good video about why grapheneOS shouldnt be looked at as an OMG 100% secure phone... keep in mind that the developer is the person who you have to trust!

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Former developer. They are no longer involved with the project.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, wasnt he the head-developer or the "Owner"?

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Maintainer. Was. These are volunteer open source projects.

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